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My favorite part about Buzzfeed editor Ben Smith's statement

Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:05 am
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:05 am
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As you have probably seen, this evening we published a secret dossier making explosive and unverified allegations about Donald Trump and Russia. I wanted to briefly explain to you how we made the decision to publish it.

We published the dossier, which Ken Bensinger obtained through his characteristically ferocious reporting, so that, as we wrote, "Americans can make up their own minds about allegations about the president-elect that have circulated at the highest levels of the US government."

Our presumption is to be transparent in our journalism and to share what we have with our readers. We have always erred on the side of publishing. In this case, the document was in wide circulation at the highest levels of American government and media. It seems to lie behind a set of vague allegations from the Senate Majority Leader to the director of the FBI and a report that intelligence agencies have delivered to the president and president-elect.

As we noted in our story, there is serious reason to doubt the allegations. We have been chasing specific claims in this document for weeks, and will continue to.

Publishing this document was not an easy or simple call, and people of good will may disagree with our choice. But publishing this dossier reflects how we see the job of reporters in 2017.

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We published the dossier, which Ken Bensinger obtained through his characteristically ferocious reporting, so that, as we wrote, "Americans can make up their own minds about allegations about the president-elect that have circulated at the highest levels of the US government."

Our presumption is to be transparent in our journalism and to share what we have with our readers. We have always erred on the side of publishing. In this case, the document was in wide circulation at the highest levels of American government and media. It seems to lie behind a set of vague allegations from the Senate Majority Leader to the director of the FBI and a report that intelligence agencies have delivered to the president and president-elect.

As we noted in our story, there is serious reason to doubt the allegations. We have been chasing specific claims in this document for weeks, and will continue to.

Publishing this document was not an easy or simple call, and people of good will may disagree with our choice. But publishing this dossier reflects how we see the job of reporters in 2017.

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Our presumption is to be transparent in our journalism and to share what we have with our readers. We have always erred on the side of publishing. In this case, the document was in wide circulation at the highest levels of American government and media. It seems to lie behind a set of vague allegations from the Senate Majority Leader to the director of the FBI and a report that intelligence agencies have delivered to the president and president-elect.

As we noted in our story, there is serious reason to doubt the allegations. We have been chasing specific claims in this document for weeks, and will continue to.

Publishing this document was not an easy or simple call, and people of good will may disagree with our choice. But publishing this dossier reflects how we see the job of reporters in 2017.

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As we noted in our story, there is serious reason to doubt the allegations. We have been chasing specific claims in this document for weeks, and will continue to.

Publishing this document was not an easy or simple call, and people of good will may disagree with our choice. But publishing this dossier reflects how we see the job of reporters in 2017.

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Publishing this document was not an easy or simple call, and people of good will may disagree with our choice. But publishing this dossier reflects how we see the job of reporters in 2017.

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But publishing this dossier reflects how we see the job of reporters in 2017.

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the job of reporters in 2017.

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2017


Posted by Vino24
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:06 am to
Though it wasn't their intention, buzzfeed exposed CNN as fake news and pretty much killed the Russia hacking chatter
Posted by cokebottleag
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:08 am to
CURRENT YEAR
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
422114 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:09 am to
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But publishing this dossier reflects how we see the job of reporters in 2017.

bet that standard wouldn't exist if HRC had won!
Posted by Abadeebadaba
LSU fan @ FSU
Member since Sep 2010
4983 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:41 am to
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"Americans can make up their own minds about allegations about the president-elect that have circulated at the highest levels of the US government."


Where was this style of thinking when the wikileaks emails were coming about? Nothing....Anyone?...Bueller??
Posted by When in Rome
Telegraph Road
Member since Jan 2011
35539 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:44 am to
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As you have probably seen, this evening we published a secret dossier making explosive and unverified allegations about Donald Trump and Russia
How could anyone open with this sentence and expect anyone to take whatever they had to say following seriously?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26696 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:49 am to
What is a "secret dossier."

The guy who made it was a private investigator. There was nothing secret about it. That phrase makes it seem like Top Secret government info.
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
9044 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:52 am to
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We published the dossier, which Ken Bensinger obtained through his characteristically ferocious reporting, so that, as we wrote, "Americans can make up their own minds about allegations about the president-elect that have circulated at the highest levels of the US government."



That is a bullshite cop-out.

The average American does not have the time, resources, or expertise to independently verify the authenticity of something like that. That's why we have fricking JOURNALISTS WHO SHOULD DO THEIR frickING JOB AND ADHERE TO BASIC JOURNALISTIC STANDARDS.

Its like a prosecutor in court being allowed to introduce a completely fabricated account of a woman being raped by a guy, and saying after the trial "Hey, I didn't say it was true. I just put it out there for the jury to make up their own minds about it."
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 11:37 am
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39417 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:52 am to
I'm coming forward with shocking, unverified claims that Volhalla butt-seksed a sheep.

Let's let the public decide if it's true because, you know, they have no fricking way of knowing or verifying if it is or not. That's the new standard of journalism that ironically begins in 2017 and is dictated by the journalistic titans at Buzzfeed.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 9:53 am to
It's not as bad as CNN which had the dossier but didn't bother to tell anyone in their report that is was full of verifiably false information
Posted by Big12fan
Dallas
Member since Nov 2011
5340 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:02 am to
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Let's let the public decide if it's true because, you know, they have no fricking way of knowing or verifying if it is or not. That's the new standard of journalism that ironically begins in 2017 and is dictated by the journalistic titans at Buzzfeed.


The ultimate decider on the truth of the allegations will be Putin, if he deems it necessary to use it to his advantage. There is no need for Putin to use this now. It would make no sense. All of this is part of Putin's shadow war and so far he is loving the infighting and controversy, since he knows it only helps Russia.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39417 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:04 am to
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The ultimate decider on the truth of the allegations will be Putin, if he deems it necessary to use it to his advantage. There is no need for Putin to use this now. It would make no sense. All of this is part of Putin's shadow war and so far he is loving the infighting and controversy, since he knows it only helps Russia.


Don't you know how crazy you sound? Nevermind.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260171 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:17 am to
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But publishing this dossier reflects how we see the job of reporters in 2017


Tells you all you need to know. Wow
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:53 am to
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which Ken Bensinger obtained through his characteristically ferocious reporting,


Should read:
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which Ken Bensinger obtained through opening the attachment on the email he was sent
Posted by Sid in Lakeshore
Member since Oct 2008
41956 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:54 am to
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Publishing this document was not an easy or simple call, and people of good will may disagree with our choice. But publishing this dossier reflects how we see the job of reporters in 2017.


Honest question here. "DID BUZZFEED PUBLISH ANY OF THE HACKED DNC OR PODESTA EMAILS?" I'm truly curious as to how consistent their desire to let the people decide for themselves is.

Somebody help me out here.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Burminham
Member since Nov 2013
7156 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 10:58 am to
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The ultimate decider on the truth of the allegations will be Putin, if he deems it necessary to use it to his advantage. There is no need for Putin to use this now. It would make no sense. All of this is part of Putin's shadow war and so far he is loving the infighting and controversy, since he knows it only helps Russia.



Posted by McChowder
Hammond
Member since Dec 2006
5219 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:09 am to
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a secret dossier

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circulated at the highest levels of the US government

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the document was in wide circulation

Not-so-secret dossier lol
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27213 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:18 am to
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The ultimate decider on the truth of the allegations will be Putin, if he deems it necessary to use it to his advantage. There is no need for Putin to use this now. It would make no sense. All of this is part of Putin's shadow war and so far he is loving the infighting and controversy, since he knows it only helps Russia.


Thank heavens Fox Mulder is already in this thread. Someone call Scully.
Posted by ProfessionalAmateur
Member since Apr 2015
1022 posts
Posted on 1/12/17 at 11:23 am to
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bet that standard wouldn't exist if HRC had won!


She could trash a hotel (room) like USA Hockey in 98 and it would come across as a rogue intern.
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