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re: Muslims forced to drink alcohol and eat pork in China’s ‘re-education’ camps

Posted on 5/19/18 at 10:16 am to
Posted by DallasTiger11
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 5/19/18 at 10:16 am to
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I can't believe I'm seeing people comfortable with a totalitarian communist regime placing people in re-education camps

I can. This board has an unhealthy hatred towards Islam and doesn’t even realize that they are doing the same thing as the Left when they support this in this instance just because it’s Islam.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 5/19/18 at 10:22 am to
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can. This board has an unhealthy hatred towards Islam and doesn’t even realize that they are doing the same thing as the Left when they support this in this instance just because it’s Islam.





Precisely.

I know this board despises the Muslim ideology, but have a little introspection. Nobody should be championing re-education camps of any capacity.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 10:24 am to
“Small Government (for me) Conservatives” run rampant here.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
67826 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 10:30 am to
I agree that Islamic programming is a cancer.

I am not comfortable with this dehumanizing solution.

Its all good until it is your group that is targeted.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 5/19/18 at 10:30 am to
Lots of horrid replies in this thread
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 10:31 am to
“Christians forced to denounce Christ and have gay sex in China’s ‘re-education’ camps” doesn’t sound so nice does it?
Posted by Sidicous
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 5/19/18 at 10:36 am to
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“Christians forced to denounce Christ and have gay sex in China’s ‘re-education’ camps” doesn’t sound so nice does it?


Neither does "Americans forced to give up their own flag on May 5", "American Christians forced out of schools and public spaces". Yet here we are. Atrocious for coercion to be going on somewhere other at home. Home is where it's acceptable apparently.

How terrible that overseas in a foreign sovereign nation with strict laws that all people within their nation have to be forced and coerced into following those laws.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 10:40 am to
Those of you who are recoiling in horror at this have no idea what civilization has had to do in the past to turn back the barbarian tide that is Islam.

Vlad Tepes had to impale 20,000 Muslims on stakes to break the will of the Ottoman armies and get them to retreat.

These camps are a Sandals resort in comparison.

We have been maleducated by a progressive public school system and lost the history of our civilization as well as a correct view of the nature of Islam...let alone of what war really is.
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 10:42 am
Posted by LSURulzSEC
Lake Charles via Oakdale
Member since Aug 2004
77298 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 10:44 am to
frick the cult of Islam...
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 10:44 am to
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“Christians forced to denounce Christ and have gay sex in China’s ‘re-education’ camps” doesn’t sound so nice does it?


The most ignorant person in today's world as the person who would seek to draw a moral equivalence between Christianity and Islam.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57910 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 10:47 am to
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Christians forced to denounce Christ and have gay sex in China’s ‘re-education’ camps” doesn’t sound so nice does it?



Geesh.
A true analogy would be forcing a Jew to eat non kosher meals or forcing a devout Catholic to eat meat on Good Friday.
Your comparison is ridiculous.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108222 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 11:00 am to
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The rest of the world needs to take note. This is exactly how you handle Moslem extremism within your country’s borders. There is only one way to fight them and China knows it.



I'm no fan of Islam, but frick you this is completely anti-American. We should never do anything like this. If the Chinese were doing this to Orthodox Jews, you would be horrified. Shame on all the upvotes in this thread.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 11:03 am to
I’m not trying to draw a moral equivalence between the two religions. I’m trying to draw a parallel between the use of torture by an authoritarian regime to brainwash their own populace.

Even if Christianity is purely morally good and Islam is purely morally evil, China does not give a shite. They want a secular society and will do whatever it takes to get there.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108222 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 11:04 am to
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Well, I'm not OK with China being a Communist country either. There is a part of western China that Islam is viewed as a problem to the China government.



Well, pretty much all of Western China is mass protesting because they don't have that much in common with the Han population in the East. They are actually subjugated, so I can see reasonably why they may get violent towards their own government. The Tibetans do this as well.
Posted by CorporateTiger
Member since Aug 2014
10700 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 11:06 am to
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Your comparison is ridiculous.


I like how people continue to miss the point (intentionally I assume). First, forcing people to do things that violate their religious beliefs is forcing people to do things that violate their religious beliefs. China is focused on the results here, not the means.

Second fill in whatever methods you want, it doesn’t change the point of the analogy.
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 11:07 am
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108222 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 11:11 am to
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All East Asian confidence is rising. The imperialist will take back over Japan again, the Korea’s will unite, they’ll team together and rull the world



Then you've clearly never stepped foot in Asia. They all hate each other. It's not like Europe.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
108222 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 11:21 am to
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Those of you who are recoiling in horror at this have no idea what civilization has had to do in the past to turn back the barbarian tide that is Islam.



And in response I would accuse you of having no idea what civilization has had to do in the past to turn back the barbarian tide that is Communism.

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Vlad Tepes had to impale 20,000 Muslims on stakes to break the will of the Ottoman armies and get them to retreat.



Great example to use Vlad the Impaler to justify your line of thought. The guy was such a monster he was the main influence for Dracula.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 5/19/18 at 11:32 am to
Hmmmm, I'm wondering what wine makes a good pairing with bacon?
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
67826 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 11:41 am to
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They want a secular society and will do whatever it takes to get there.



agree

the state is imposing it's own religion as it has asserted itself as the ultimate moral authority

in other words, the state has become god
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57910 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 12:03 pm to
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I'm no fan of Islam, but frick you this is completely anti-American. We should never do anything like this. If the Chinese were doing this to Orthodox Jews, you would be horrified. Shame on all the upvotes in this thread.


It's ironic that the same Left that could not care less about the religious freedoms of Americans in America, get so bent out of shape over Muslim's rights in communist China.
What's the infatuation with the left and Islam?
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