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Muslims forced to drink alcohol and eat pork in China’s ‘re-education’ camps

Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:50 am
Posted by OleWarSkuleAlum
Huntsville, AL
Member since Dec 2013
10293 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:50 am
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Omir Bekali, one among perhaps a million people reportedly arrested and held in mass re-education camps, said he was detained without trial or access to a lawyer and forced to disavow his beliefs


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Mr Bekali, a Kazakh citizen, said he contemplated suicide after 20 days in the facility – which itself followed seven months in a prison.

Since spring last year authorities in Xinjiang region have confined tens or even hundreds of thousands of Muslims in the camps, including some foreign nationals. One estimate put the figure at a million or more.


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“The psychological pressure is enormous, when you have to criticise yourself, denounce your thinking – your own ethnic group,” said Mr Bekali, who broke down in tears as he described the camp. “I still think about it every night, until the sun rises. I can’t sleep. The thoughts are with me all the time.”

The detention campaign has swept across Xinjiang, a territory half the area of India.

Chinese officials have largely avoided comment on the camps, but some are quoted in state media as saying that ideological changes are needed to fight separatism and Islamic extremism. Radical Muslim Uighurs have killed hundreds in recent years, and China considers the region a threat to peace in a country where the majority is Han Chinese.


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The internment programme aims to rewire the political thinking of detainees, erase their Islamic beliefs and reshape their very identities. The camps have expanded rapidly over the past year, with almost no judicial process or legal paperwork. Detainees who most vigorously criticise the people and things they love are rewarded, and those who refuse to do so are punished with solitary confinement, beatings and food deprivation.


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The rest of the world needs to take note. This is exactly how you handle Moslem extremism within your country’s borders. There is only one way to fight them and China knows it.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:52 am to
Brb.

Heading to brunch in China.
Posted by fjlee90
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2016
7832 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:55 am to
Sounds like China is throwing quite the bbq these days.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8320 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:57 am to
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This is exactly how you handle Moslem extremism within your country’s borders
Well that’s just dumb



But this does make me fume (yet again) at all the people who called Bannon a quack for pushing the belief that modern day China is at the same societal inflection point as pre-WW2 Germany.

There’s plenty I don’t like about Bannon, but the dude has an eye for geopolitical trends. And the rising tide of Chinese nationalism is something we all need to take note of
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 8:05 am
Posted by LordSaintly
Member since Dec 2005
38834 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:57 am to
No matter what you think of Muslims, no one should be okay with this.
Posted by MMauler
Member since Jun 2013
19216 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:58 am to
The moral of this story -- if you ever find yourself imprisoned in China, keep screaming Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar, Allahu Akbar.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8320 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:59 am to
Don’t stay too long, they’ll be tossing your kind in there in a few years
Posted by t00f
Not where you think I am
Member since Jul 2016
89645 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 7:59 am to
I guess the EU will rethink sending refugees there.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34850 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:02 am to
And this is exactly what the Chinese would do to about 90% of this Board, who believe that Constitutional Freedom is a God-given Right. And it's why I fear the Chinese; they are VERY ruthlessly efficient and enduring People.
Posted by TexasTiger80
Texas
Member since Apr 2018
2396 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:07 am to
Terrible...no person should be persecuted for their religious beliefs. This story should be focused towards hatred of communism.

If they want to get rid of extremism, they should cut off the head of the snake.
Posted by bigwheel
Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2008
6491 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:09 am to
I don’t have a problem with the China treatment . And don’t have a problem with water boarding
Posted by FlatLakeTiger
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2015
2612 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:10 am to
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No matter what you think of Muslims, no one should be okay with this.


Well, I'm not OK with China being a Communist country either. There is a part of western China that Islam is viewed as a problem to the China government.

The way I see it is its Godless Vs. Heretics. Both are problems.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:10 am to
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Don’t stay too long, they’ll be tossing your kind in there in a few years



What kind is that?
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
51794 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:11 am to
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mass re-education camps





Paging Toddy!

Paging TOddy!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259857 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:14 am to
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No matter what you think of Muslims, no one should be okay with this.


Correct

This is a prime example of why we hate BigGov.
Posted by International_Aggie
Member since Oct 2012
1086 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:16 am to
This is a terrible abuse of power and a prime example of why we have the Bill of Rights and especially the 1st ammendement here. I can't believe I'm seeing people comfortable with a totalitarian communist regime placing people in re-education camps.
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:23 am to
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The rest of the world needs to take note. This is exactly how you handle Moslem extremism within your country’s borders. There is only one way to fight them and China knows it.


You really think that in America it should be ok to detain someone without trial or access to a lawyer and force them disavow their beliefs? What about if the liberals win the next election, should they be able to do that to you if you don’t agree with them? If we ever did what you are suggesting the USA and every great thing about her would be dead.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
21237 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:23 am to
I honestly don't care what happens to muslims in China. Anyone who worships a pedophile deserves to be treated like shite.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
259857 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:25 am to
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This story should be focused towards hatred of authoritarianism.
Posted by funnystuff
Member since Nov 2012
8320 posts
Posted on 5/19/18 at 8:31 am to
Take your pick. Because Chinese leadership is not big on any concept that ranks higher in people’s hearts than the state. And they are about to have virtually complete control of the their country


Let’s see what turn these camps take in 2020 when China’s citizen score goes into full implementation. I highly suspect Christians will received docked scores, and thereby anyone associating with them by extension. Put enough stigma on all religion and you can ‘re-educate’ any god fearing soul with the support of the majority.
This post was edited on 5/19/18 at 8:34 am
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