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re: Musk, Vivek, RFK were all Trojan horses
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:03 pm to JohnnyKilroy
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:03 pm to JohnnyKilroy
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Except Vivek is incredibly wrong in his view. America absolutely shits all over india and every other country when it comes to innovation, engineering and production.
Because we’ve imported everyone from Wernher von Braun and Unit 731 to Musk himself.
An ascendant China will catch us on population and statistical probability alone if we don’t continue to offer the best and brightest a better reason to do it here rather than there.
This post was edited on 12/26/24 at 10:05 pm
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Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:05 pm to boosiebadazz
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An ascendant China will catch us on population and statistical probability alone if we don’t continue to offer the best and brightest and better reason to do it here rather than there.
China will never catch us due to their government. Maybe if they completely ditch their entire historical culture they have a chance. Otherwise you're a retard if you actually believe that.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:06 pm to boosiebadazz
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We need the best of the best wherever they are from
I don't disagree with this in theory but in practice the H1B program (and others) is being used to sideline the best that are already here and suppress wages.
The Washington Post had an article about this some months ago.
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Hiring in professional and business services — which includes jobs in tech, consulting, finance and media that are popular among new grads — has fallen 12 percent, according to federal data … Today’s recent graduates ages 22 to 27 have a higher unemployment rate — 4.7 percent, as of March — than the overall population, according to an analysis by the New York Fed.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:07 pm to JohnnyKilroy
as American and European pilots are offered gobs of money to train them. Are you really willing to take that chance? And the alternative being what? We turn away the best computer scientist and quantum computing brains because of where they were born?
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:08 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:Than why do you fear importing them?
Except Vivek is incredibly wrong in his view. America absolutely shits all over india and every other country when it comes to innovation, engineering and production.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:09 pm to JoeHackett
This debate needs to be held in terms of the bell curve. The top 10% or so need to be here regardless. The next 30% or so can be argued should be prioritized towards Americans and appropriate wages. The remainder can be offshored to Delhi or Delcambre for all intents and purposes.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:11 pm to Taxing Authority
That’s what I don’t understand. Much of this board is ripping the H1B guys as kind of dumb or unqualified grunts. Well, the work must not involve all that much skill if they can do it.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:13 pm to boosiebadazz
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This debate needs to be held in terms of the bell curve. The top 10% or so need to be here regardless. The next 30% or so can be argued should be prioritized towards Americans and appropriate wages. The remainder can be offshored to Delhi or Delcambre for all intents and purposes.
That makes some sense.
I'm fine with the O-1 visa program being used properly. That is where the .01% Musk backtracked to belongs.
H1-B is just abused to death however which is lowering tech wages and opportunity for Americans.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:14 pm to Taxing Authority
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Than why do you fear importing them?
Because they suppress American wages and take jobs from hardworking Americans.
I don't like seeing American tech companies gut themselves from the inside by filling themselves up with cheap foreigners.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:15 pm to Bunk Moreland
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That’s what I don’t understand. Much of this board is ripping the H1B guys as kind of dumb or unqualified grunts. Well, the work must not involve all that much skill if they can do it.
I'm ripping it as it is taking jobs, and lowering average wages, from middle class Americans.
Much like the illegals are doing to lower class Americans.
The numbers show foreign born employment up while American is down.
I haven't seen those after the numerous revisions, but I would bet it looks even worse.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:16 pm to BuckyCheese
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I'm fine with the O-1 visa program being used properly. That is where the .01% Musk backtracked to belongs
Yes. Get the quantum computing and nuclear fusion guys here regardless of where they were born.
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H1-B is just abused to death however which is lowering tech wages and opportunity for Americans
Yes, scale this back so the goldennuggets of the country can find a purpose and put roots down.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:16 pm to Bunk Moreland
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Much of this board
I feel most asinine ideas start with this phrase.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:17 pm to deltaland
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Trump better show them the door, or he will lose our support fast.
He doesn't need your support now...
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:18 pm to JohnnyKilroy
quote:Kinda invalidated your own premise here.
Because they suppress American wages and take jobs from hardworking Americans.
quote:If they're incapable as you suggested, they will self-own their own punishment. Honestly, it sounds you're scared that won't happen. If you're scared, say you're scared.
I don't like seeing American tech companies gut themselves from the inside by filling themselves up with cheap foreigners.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:22 pm to boosiebadazz
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An ascendant China will catch us on population and statistical probability alone if we don’t continue to offer the best and brightest a better reason to do it here rather than there.
But the % of white people in the country is more important than actually winning to some of these people
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:23 pm to udtiger
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How about everyone take deep breath... And take a pause... And realize that 95% of everything you are hearing is gaslighting bullshite by people that are trying to kneecap Trump's presidency before he's even inaugurated.
Best post itt
There are a couple posters in this thread on the first two pages that would literally do anything to get Trump to fail.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:24 pm to KingOrange
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So now you agree with Loomer. Hahahaha!
No.
Loomer or Elon/Vivek now have TDS
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:25 pm to BuckyCheese
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I'm ripping it as it is taking jobs, and lowering average wages, from middle class Americans. Much like the illegals are doing to lower class Americans.
Look we can all argue this is not a perfect program but what we also have to confront is that the American worker is not what they used to be. Elon and Vivek are correct that the current American workforce are not as hard working as they used to be and are less intelligent. You have a large portion of the American workforce that are outright refusing to go back to work and feel entitled to work from home. Blame American colleges for essentially selling degrees by promoting dei over hard work and promoting woke ideology. I understand people 35 and older may see things differently they don’t completely fall into this ideology because they were raised differently but arguing the American workforce is as hardworking and productive as it has always been is just silly. America has a problem and sticking our head in the sand and acting like it isn’t there won’t help anyone.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:25 pm to Powerman
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But the % of white people in the country is more important than actually winning to some of these people
China, nor India for that matter, have ever innovated on anything. China is good for low cost manufacturing, not much else.
India is good for call centers. Good meaning cheap. They aren't worth a damn.
Posted on 12/26/24 at 10:27 pm to deltaland
Bunch of yall are being way to dramatic about all this.
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