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re: Mueller... we have a problem sunshine. Your MEMO date is kinda off
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:39 am to ItsMuellerTime
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:39 am to ItsMuellerTime
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Literally the opening paragraph of that memo is an exchange from Rosenstein to Mueller discussing the initial scope of the investigation established in May. So yes, that is most assuredly in there and part of the response.
Again, then he should have just relied on the original mandate. He couldn't because he knows he would lose that suit. So he submitted a memo that is dated after the raid.
That's a problem with dates!
It's hard to say to a judge.
"Sir I had the mandate to do this. I know this because AFTER I raided them, I asked if it was ok."
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Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:39 am to ItsMuellerTime
yeah, you're not an alter at all! 
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:40 am to ItsMuellerTime
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This is the guy that brought down Gotti
Yes he did by finding a way to get his attorney, Bruce Cotler removed from he case because Cotler was on of the most effective criminal defense lawyers around at the time
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:40 am to ItsMuellerTime
quote:Says the alter tool.
maybe put a personal ban bet on it for yourself
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This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 11:41 am
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:44 am to ItsMuellerTime
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This is the guy that brought down Gotti, staffed with people that helped bring down Nixon, if you want to hinge your hopes on a fringe partisan blog cracking these people as incompetents, feel free. My guess is that will be a road with a lot of fatal crashes.
And the same guy that let Whitey Bulger go missing.
Welcome back 74
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:44 am to SirWinston
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Surely we'll catch a break and one of these scenarios will fall to an honest Judge who isn't a political hack? Just once?
It's a good prayer but keep in mind that the Judiciary has been heavily indoctrinated and politicized by the Left since the 1960s, so, as I said: good prayers.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:45 am to ItsMuellerTime
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The broad scope of the special counsel was already established in May, after the Comey firing, when Mueller was assigned to investigate: "any links and/or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of President Donald Trump; and any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation; and any other matters within the scope of 28 C.F.R. § 600.4(a). "
Still outside the scope since recusal, and Rosenstein's authority, was related to the 2016 campaign and this matter is not. The second part about any matters that may arise is nonsensical because it effectively makes the SC a boundless expedition, which was never the intent of statute or regulation.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:46 am to SCLibertarian
It was Mueller that ultimately made the decision to have the sit down and anchor the case around Sammy Gravano. Most in the FBI and federal prosecutorial team were ready to dismiss the olive branch as a scam.
But honestly, you should see how silly this line of discussion is about to get. If Mueller’s career was just Gotti, maybe you could say he lucked into it or deserves less credit(hard case to make, but you could try), and thus maybe he and his Special Counsel team are actually incompetents enough so that a random conspiracy blog could expose them with a simple procedural error. But he’s the guy that brought down Gotti and oversaw the FBI for 12 years, confirmed unanimously and under a Republican president and than a Democratic one. Who went on to a 7 figure job in the private sector, offered by one of the most prestigious firms in the world. And most of his staff also have stellar legal resumes.
It just stretches the imagination when these conspiracies pop up. And should be kept in mind for future ones. In this case though, we can just look at the memo to see where the logic strains and wait til the judge rules to confirm or debunk the positions of people in here.
But honestly, you should see how silly this line of discussion is about to get. If Mueller’s career was just Gotti, maybe you could say he lucked into it or deserves less credit(hard case to make, but you could try), and thus maybe he and his Special Counsel team are actually incompetents enough so that a random conspiracy blog could expose them with a simple procedural error. But he’s the guy that brought down Gotti and oversaw the FBI for 12 years, confirmed unanimously and under a Republican president and than a Democratic one. Who went on to a 7 figure job in the private sector, offered by one of the most prestigious firms in the world. And most of his staff also have stellar legal resumes.
It just stretches the imagination when these conspiracies pop up. And should be kept in mind for future ones. In this case though, we can just look at the memo to see where the logic strains and wait til the judge rules to confirm or debunk the positions of people in here.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:49 am to ItsMuellerTime
What's up, NT74?
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:49 am to ItsMuellerTime
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And most of his staff also have stellar legal resumes.
And there went your credibility.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:49 am to Jjdoc
Where's NT74 to defend Honest Bob here and tell us that there is absolutely nothing wrong with this?
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 11:50 am
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:53 am to indianswim
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Where's NT74 to defend Honest Bob here and tell us that there is absolutely nothing wrong with this?
He goes by ItsMuellerTime for now. NT74 really destroyed his rep on here over the past several months and stopped posting a couple of weeks ago. He created this alter so that he could post his real beliefs on here without risking further embarrassment.
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 11:55 am
Posted on 4/4/18 at 11:58 am to Jjdoc
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Again, then he should have just relied on the original mandate. He couldn't because he knows he would lose that suit. So he submitted a memo that is dated after the raid.
That's a problem with dates!
It's hard to say to a judge.
"Sir I had the mandate to do this. I know this because AFTER I raided them, I asked if it was ok."
I like how you just skipped right over how it is now 100% evident you never even read parts of the memo. Since you didn’t even realize other dates, conversations, and mandates were included besides the August 2nd exchange.
Like I said, if you are so cocksure in your conspiracy blog and their assertions that they just exposed this house of cards, put some personal skin in the game.
After all, if this is so slam dunk, the judge will assuredly rule in Manafort’s favor. I look forward to you bumping this thread when the judge does....or more likely some deep state conspiracy thread about why the judge didn’t.
This post was edited on 4/4/18 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:01 pm to Godfather1
At least Rice was smart enough to manufacture evidence BEFORE the inauguration
Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:01 pm to MrLarson
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And the same guy that let Whitey Bulger go missing.
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Long before he became FBI Director, serious questions existed about Mueller’s role as Acting U.S. Attorney in Boston in effectively enabling decades of corruption and covering up of the FBI’s illicit deals with mobster Whitey Bulger and other “top echelon” informants who committed numerous murders and crimes. When the truth was finally uncovered through intrepid investigative reporting and persistent, honest judges, U.S. taxpayers footed a $100 million court award to the four men framed for murders committed by (the FBI operated) Bulger gang.
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Current media applause omits the fact that former FBI Director Mueller was the top official in charge of the Anthrax terror fiasco investigation into the 2001 murders, which targeted an innocent man (Steven Hatfill) whose lawsuit eventually forced the FBI to pay $5 million in compensation. Mueller’s FBI was also severely criticized by Department of Justice Inspector Generals finding the FBI overstepped the law improperly serving hundreds of thousands of “national security letters” to obtain private (and irrelevant) metadata on citizens, and for infiltrating nonviolent anti-war groups under the guise of investigating “terrorism.”
Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:02 pm to LSU Patrick
Feels more like Baloo for some reason.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:03 pm to ItsMuellerTime
quote:Again with this shite.
put some personal skin in the game.
fricking alter.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:03 pm to Jjdoc
Hopefully they extradite Manafort to Kyiv after this is all over. That should be fun.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:03 pm to GRTiger
I thought that for a sec too.
Posted on 4/4/18 at 12:04 pm to GRTiger
quote:Who was the tool that always yammered about ban bets?
Feels more like Baloo for some reason.
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