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re: Trump, “this is a disgrace and attack on country”
Posted by ItsMuellerTime on 4/9/18 at 5:38 pm to Strannix
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Lol he’s on fire
Melting before our eyes.
re: Trump, “this is a disgrace and attack on country”
Posted by ItsMuellerTime on 4/9/18 at 5:37 pm to Strannix
So Trump has finally become self-aware about his own presidency?
Good to hear.
Good to hear.
re: With 4 Games Remaining
Posted by ItsMuellerTime on 4/8/18 at 4:23 am to Colonel Flagg
Who has some extra money to blow on several billboards in Oklahoma?
As the Sixers would say, it can’t hurt!
As the Sixers would say, it can’t hurt!
re: If we hadn't traded Buddy for Boogie, I'd be mad about not getting Murray
Posted by ItsMuellerTime on 4/7/18 at 3:53 am to GynoSandberg
Murray gets the nod for youth but Buddy has been no slouch since the allstar break either.
On a far worse team where he doesn’t have the luxury of great players to draw attention away:
Buddy post all star: 29 MPG, 16ppg, 46% FG, 44% 3P, 5 REB, 3 AST, 58% TS%
Murray post all star: 34mpg, 17ppg, 42% FG, 38% 3P, 4 REB, 4 AST, 56% TS%
Again, Murray has the nod for youth and growing room for his ceiling, but both have been producing fairly neck and neck. The one major thing I would give to Murray right now is getting to the line. He is averaging nearly 4 FTA’s a game to Buddy’s 1 FTA. Though one has to wonder how good Buddy would look this year on a good team that plays to his strengths. You know, a team that could draw away defenders and give him a ton of open looks from three thanks to two superstar big men drawing all the attention. I think we would have to concede that if Buddy were on a similarily good team like Murray is, his numbers would look even better. Still, with hindsight, I think you have to go Murray in a do-over. Though I don’t quite think the gap between the two is as large as some are making it out to be. At least currently. That could obviously change over the course of a career.
On a far worse team where he doesn’t have the luxury of great players to draw attention away:
Buddy post all star: 29 MPG, 16ppg, 46% FG, 44% 3P, 5 REB, 3 AST, 58% TS%
Murray post all star: 34mpg, 17ppg, 42% FG, 38% 3P, 4 REB, 4 AST, 56% TS%
Again, Murray has the nod for youth and growing room for his ceiling, but both have been producing fairly neck and neck. The one major thing I would give to Murray right now is getting to the line. He is averaging nearly 4 FTA’s a game to Buddy’s 1 FTA. Though one has to wonder how good Buddy would look this year on a good team that plays to his strengths. You know, a team that could draw away defenders and give him a ton of open looks from three thanks to two superstar big men drawing all the attention. I think we would have to concede that if Buddy were on a similarily good team like Murray is, his numbers would look even better. Still, with hindsight, I think you have to go Murray in a do-over. Though I don’t quite think the gap between the two is as large as some are making it out to be. At least currently. That could obviously change over the course of a career.
re: Mueller... we have a problem sunshine. Your MEMO date is kinda off
Posted by ItsMuellerTime on 4/4/18 at 11:58 am to Jjdoc
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Again, then he should have just relied on the original mandate. He couldn't because he knows he would lose that suit. So he submitted a memo that is dated after the raid.
That's a problem with dates!
It's hard to say to a judge.
"Sir I had the mandate to do this. I know this because AFTER I raided them, I asked if it was ok."
I like how you just skipped right over how it is now 100% evident you never even read parts of the memo. Since you didn’t even realize other dates, conversations, and mandates were included besides the August 2nd exchange.
Like I said, if you are so cocksure in your conspiracy blog and their assertions that they just exposed this house of cards, put some personal skin in the game.
After all, if this is so slam dunk, the judge will assuredly rule in Manafort’s favor. I look forward to you bumping this thread when the judge does....or more likely some deep state conspiracy thread about why the judge didn’t.
re: Mueller... we have a problem sunshine. Your MEMO date is kinda off
Posted by ItsMuellerTime on 4/4/18 at 11:46 am to SCLibertarian
It was Mueller that ultimately made the decision to have the sit down and anchor the case around Sammy Gravano. Most in the FBI and federal prosecutorial team were ready to dismiss the olive branch as a scam.
But honestly, you should see how silly this line of discussion is about to get. If Mueller’s career was just Gotti, maybe you could say he lucked into it or deserves less credit(hard case to make, but you could try), and thus maybe he and his Special Counsel team are actually incompetents enough so that a random conspiracy blog could expose them with a simple procedural error. But he’s the guy that brought down Gotti and oversaw the FBI for 12 years, confirmed unanimously and under a Republican president and than a Democratic one. Who went on to a 7 figure job in the private sector, offered by one of the most prestigious firms in the world. And most of his staff also have stellar legal resumes.
It just stretches the imagination when these conspiracies pop up. And should be kept in mind for future ones. In this case though, we can just look at the memo to see where the logic strains and wait til the judge rules to confirm or debunk the positions of people in here.
But honestly, you should see how silly this line of discussion is about to get. If Mueller’s career was just Gotti, maybe you could say he lucked into it or deserves less credit(hard case to make, but you could try), and thus maybe he and his Special Counsel team are actually incompetents enough so that a random conspiracy blog could expose them with a simple procedural error. But he’s the guy that brought down Gotti and oversaw the FBI for 12 years, confirmed unanimously and under a Republican president and than a Democratic one. Who went on to a 7 figure job in the private sector, offered by one of the most prestigious firms in the world. And most of his staff also have stellar legal resumes.
It just stretches the imagination when these conspiracies pop up. And should be kept in mind for future ones. In this case though, we can just look at the memo to see where the logic strains and wait til the judge rules to confirm or debunk the positions of people in here.
re: Mueller... we have a problem sunshine. Your MEMO date is kinda off
Posted by ItsMuellerTime on 4/4/18 at 11:24 am to Jjdoc
Literally the opening paragraph of that memo is an exchange from Rosenstein to Mueller discussing the initial scope of the investigation established in May. So yes, that is most assuredly in there and part of the response.
LINK
Which tells me you have read this blog, but not even a single page of this memo.
LINK
Which tells me you have read this blog, but not even a single page of this memo.
re: Mueller... we have a problem sunshine. Your MEMO date is kinda off
Posted by ItsMuellerTime on 4/4/18 at 11:21 am to Bourre
I’m proposing it for himself. But clearly done as a tongue in cheek way, more meant to think about how much he really believes in this silliness(or similar house of cards meanderings). I suspect not even confident in it that much.
My advice was to disregard this story by pointing out the facts of the scope of the investigation and the actual timeline. Which I think anyone should do before jumping into this wishful thinking. The court is going to side with Mueller on this. But I suspect the Q anon level conspiracies won’t stop there.
This is the guy that brought down Gotti, staffed with people that helped bring down Nixon, if you want to hinge your hopes on a fringe partisan blog cracking these people as incompetents, feel free. My guess is that will be a road with a lot of fatal crashes.
My advice was to disregard this story by pointing out the facts of the scope of the investigation and the actual timeline. Which I think anyone should do before jumping into this wishful thinking. The court is going to side with Mueller on this. But I suspect the Q anon level conspiracies won’t stop there.
This is the guy that brought down Gotti, staffed with people that helped bring down Nixon, if you want to hinge your hopes on a fringe partisan blog cracking these people as incompetents, feel free. My guess is that will be a road with a lot of fatal crashes.
re: Mueller: Trump is still under investigation but not a criminal target
Posted by ItsMuellerTime on 4/4/18 at 11:00 am to Iosh
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My suspicion is that this leak is part of a fight between Sekulow and Cobb as to whether Trump should interview or not.
Even more likely is it is from Dowd.
Who was counseling him against interviewing with Mueller or getting too excited over that statement, and got fed up with the president not taking the advice of his counsel.
re: Mueller: Trump is still under investigation but not a criminal target
Posted by ItsMuellerTime on 4/4/18 at 10:28 am to stelly1025
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Pres needs to end this shite now it is beyond ridiculous.
After Mueller made it known he is a subject of investigation on obstruction charges?
That would be a very unwise decision. At best you buy yourself some time like Nixon, but more than likely congress passes now or after November, an independent counsel that will pick up where Mueller left off. Like with Nixon. Where all you’ve done now is strengthened the case of obstruction, making it even harder for congress to justify not seeing that as abuse of power and not taking action.
re: Mueller: Trump is still under investigation but not a criminal target
Posted by ItsMuellerTime on 4/4/18 at 10:14 am to ItsMuellerTime
More to this case:
On the left, I think people are not giving enough respect for how hard it will be to prove intent. Which Mueller clearly finds necessary to make a final determination on recommendations and conclusions with regards to this part of the investigation. As evidenced in Mueller asserting why he wants an interview with Trump in the Washington Post piece. As a side note to this, this is also seemingly a final straw of why Dowd quit. Dowd thinks the mix of Trump’s undisciplined and poorly focused demeanor would all but put him in legal jeopardy if Trump acquiesces to Mueller’s request for a sit down interview. He seemingly tried but failed to impress upon the president that just because you are not a target at this moment for obstruction, that can change very fast. That Mueller may just be calling you a subject simply because he agrees with court precedent that a president can’t be a criminal target. A technicality without the clearance space he is perceiving.
On the right, there is a ton of willful ignorance to the level of evidence we do have at this point. From Trump firing Comey and admiting on national tv he was thinking about the Russia investigation when he did it. The next day bragging to Lavrov how he perceived that took pressure off himself from the Russia investigation by firing Fomey. To the reported threats of firing Mueller last summer, Trump and his lawyers reportedly floating the idea of pardons to get people to not flip(which could be witness tampering). To Trump demanding not to and furious over Sessions recusing himself because he wanted him to protect him(run interference basically). The infamous tweet that came from Trump’s account(that his lawyer tried to take ownership of) that stated foreknowledge of Flynn’s crimes and lying to the FBI before he asked Comey to drop the investigation. And those are just some highlights
On the left, I think people are not giving enough respect for how hard it will be to prove intent. Which Mueller clearly finds necessary to make a final determination on recommendations and conclusions with regards to this part of the investigation. As evidenced in Mueller asserting why he wants an interview with Trump in the Washington Post piece. As a side note to this, this is also seemingly a final straw of why Dowd quit. Dowd thinks the mix of Trump’s undisciplined and poorly focused demeanor would all but put him in legal jeopardy if Trump acquiesces to Mueller’s request for a sit down interview. He seemingly tried but failed to impress upon the president that just because you are not a target at this moment for obstruction, that can change very fast. That Mueller may just be calling you a subject simply because he agrees with court precedent that a president can’t be a criminal target. A technicality without the clearance space he is perceiving.
On the right, there is a ton of willful ignorance to the level of evidence we do have at this point. From Trump firing Comey and admiting on national tv he was thinking about the Russia investigation when he did it. The next day bragging to Lavrov how he perceived that took pressure off himself from the Russia investigation by firing Fomey. To the reported threats of firing Mueller last summer, Trump and his lawyers reportedly floating the idea of pardons to get people to not flip(which could be witness tampering). To Trump demanding not to and furious over Sessions recusing himself because he wanted him to protect him(run interference basically). The infamous tweet that came from Trump’s account(that his lawyer tried to take ownership of) that stated foreknowledge of Flynn’s crimes and lying to the FBI before he asked Comey to drop the investigation. And those are just some highlights
re: Mueller: Trump is still under investigation but not a criminal target
Posted by ItsMuellerTime on 4/4/18 at 10:13 am to HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
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There will be no obstruction of justice charges lol Trump has every legal right to do everything he did in regard to this investigation. He could fire Rod Rosenstein today, announce it was so he could replace him with someone who would fire Bob Mueller and that still wouldn't be obstruction of justice, because the POTUS has every right to fire Rosenstein and you would have a hard time proving he had intent to cover up a crime.
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Article I
In his conduct of the office of the President of the United States, Richard M. Nixon, in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President ofthe United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States, and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, has prevented, obstructed, and impeded the administration of justice, in that: On June 17, 1972, and prior thereto, agents of the Committee for the Re-Election of the President committed unlawful entry of the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee in Washington, District of Columbia, for the purpose of securing political intelligence. Subsequent thereto, Richard M. Nixon, using the powers of his high office, engaged personally and through his subordinates and agents, in a course of conduct or plan designed to delay, impede and obstruct investigations of such unlawful entry; to cover up, conceal and protect those responsible; and to conceal the existence and scope of other unlawful covert activities.
The means used to implement this course of conduct or plan have included one or more of the following:
(1) making or causing to be made false or misleading statements to lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States;
(2) withholding relevant and material evidence or information from lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States;
(3) approving, condoning, acquiescing in, and counseling witnesses with respect to the giving of false or misleading statements to lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States and false or misleading testimony in duly instituted judicial and congressional proceedings;
(4) interfering or endeavoring to interfere with the conduct of investigations by the Department of Justice of the United States, the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Office of Watergate Special Prosecution Force and Congressional Committees;
(5) approving, condoning, and acquiescing in, the surreptitious payments of substantial sums of money for the purpose of obtaining the silence or influencing the testimony of witnesses, potential witnesses or individuals who participated in such unlawful entry and other illegal activities;
(6) endeavoring to misuse the Central Intelligence Agency, an agency of the United States;
(7) disseminating information received from officers of the Department of Justice of the United States to subjects of investigations conducted by lawfully authorized investigative officers and employees of the United States for the purpose of aiding and assisting such subjects in their attempts to avoid criminal liability;
(8) making false or misleadingpublic statements for the purpose of deceiving the veople of the United States into believing that a thorough and complete
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investigation has been conducted with respect to allegation of misconduct on the Dart of personnel of the Executive Branch of the United States and personnel of the commiitee forthe Re-Election of the President, and that there was'no involvement of such personnel in such misconduct; or
(9) endeavoring to cause prospective defendants, and individuals duly tried and convicted, to expect favored treatment and consideration in return for their silence or false testimony, or rewarding individuals for their silence or false testimony.
In all of this, Richard M. Nixon has acted in a manner contrary to his trust as President and subversive of constitutional government, to the great prejudice of the cause of law and justice and to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.
Wherefore Richard M. Nixon, by such conduct, warrants impeachment and trial, and removal from office. (Approvedby the House Judicary Committee, July 30, 1974, 27 to 11.)
We as a nation levy a broad level of power and trust to an elected president, a scope and reach unlike any other office in our government. And we give him wide deference to execute those responsibilities. As such, many constitutional scholars do not even believe a sitting president can be prosecuted criminally in a criminal court while in office. For any crime.
HOWEVER, and the framers of the constitution were very clear on this, that does not mean the president is above the law or above justice. It is just that the recourse for justice when it comes to a sitting president is not conducted through the criminal courts, but through the legislature. And this is done for very specific reasons. For as the founders rightfully saw, a corrupt government could simply corrupt the courts in a way to make any abuse of power technically legal.
Legality and authority are not immunizations from abuse of power.
Richard Nixon learned this lesson the hard way. Trump has seemingly not learned this lesson, nor many of his ardent followers. The question before us is not whether obstruction of justice is grounds for removal from office, the precedent on that is already crystal clear, the question is whether the Mueller team believes there is a similar preponderance of evidence to draw that conclusion and recommend such steps be taken.
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