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re: Mueller Investigation
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:18 am to BBONDS25
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:18 am to BBONDS25
quote:They won't stop.
Will Dems quit when Mueller says there is nothing there to prosecute? My guess is no. I don't know why...I just have a feeling the Dems won't care.
But here is how I think it will go. Mueller, in coordination with RR, will conduct a fair investigation in search of the truth. And that truth will lead to one or two important outcomes specific to Trump:
1. Trump committed no criminal wrongdoing.
The left will be outraged with Mueller's investigation, call him dishonest, may even want him investigated.
2. Trump committed wrongdoing, probably leading to impeachment proceedings at least.
The right will be outraged with Mueller's investigation, call him dishonest, may even want him investigated.
In other words, the true integrity of the investigation is irrelevant because it will be judged by the outcome and whether it was the outcome one was hoping for.
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Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:21 am to buckeye_vol
I think I agree. Except I don't think it iis "wrongdoing". I think Mueller will classify actions as collusion. (Loosely defined) Which will be all the left needs. Impeachment proceedings will take place. No conviction.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:22 am to shinerfan
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THE SPECIAL COUNSEL WAS APPOINTED BY TRUMP'S OWN HAND PICKED DOJ.
quote:This has to he a joke. Rosenstein is not only apart of the DOJ, he is the second highest ranking official, and in the case of the Russian investigation, the highest ranking official.
Mueller was appointed by Rosenstein you pathetic, lying piece of shite. Have you ever made a single post on this board that wasn't a conscious lie?
Your post is the one that is inaccurate, which makes the unnecessary insults that much more ridiculous.
This post was edited on 7/21/17 at 11:23 am
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:22 am to JuiceTerry
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He didn't have anything to do with it. fricking hell.
So you are telling me that if Trump had told Sessions not to appoint a SP, Sessions would have done so regardless?
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:22 am to Amblin
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why did he agree to go with the special prosecutor and not just let the Rep controlled Senate or House committees complete their investigation into the matter.
Because he has absolutely no idea what he is doing or how any of this works. He would be in a much better place if he could keep his mouth shut, but he can't help himself. Petulant child. Sad.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:23 am to BBONDS25
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Pretty low standard there. Is it possible??? Really?
I mean yeah really, lots of people on here act like there's no chance and it's all just an MSM/swamp witch hunt
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:24 am to Revelator
quote:Well Rosenstein appointed Mueller, and I don't know what he would do, but given his reputation and the nature of the Comey fallout, I think he would have appointed a counsel even if Trump demanded him not to.
So you are telling me that if Trump had told Sessions not to appoint a SP, Sessions would have done so regardless?
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:24 am to Amblin
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why did he agree to go with the special prosecutor
what makes you think he had any input? he couldn't stop rosenstein from naming a special prosecutor.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:36 am to Revelator
quote:It's amazing how clueless people are about this process, yet they always want to chime in.
So you are telling me that if Trump had told Sessions not to appoint a SP, Sessions would have done so regardless?
Sigh.. Sessions is recused from any dealings with any Russians investigation. It wasn't his call. Rosenstein let the white house know that he was appointing Mueller about 20 minutes before it happened. Trump had absolutely zero knowledge or input.
Now, had he had knowledge beforehand, would he have fired Rosenstein? Well that's anybody's guess. He still could, and might.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:38 am to buckeye_vol
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This has to he a joke. Rosenstein is not only apart of the DOJ, he is the second highest ranking official, and in the case of the Russian investigation, the highest ranking official.
Then why suggest Trump would be throwing Sessions under the bus by firing Mueller?
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:44 am to JuiceTerry
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Sessions is recused from any dealings with any Russians investigation.
Yes, he recused himself, but didn't have too. That's a big point.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:51 am to shinerfan
Trump threw Sessions under the bus a couple of days ago. If you paid attention, you'd know that, and wouldn't look like a fricking jackass going off half cocked on people that have actually kept up.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 11:55 am to TurboDogTiger
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why did he agree to go with the special prosecutor and not just let the Rep controlled Senate or House committees complete their investigation into the matter.
Because he has absolutely no idea what he is doing or how any of this works
Trump thought he could declare a red line around his business deals and say they were off limits.,
Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:20 pm to buckeye_vol
quote:
They won't stop. But here is how I think it will go. Mueller, in coordination with RR, will conduct a fair investigation in search of the truth. And that truth will lead to one or two important outcomes specific to Trump: 1. Trump committed no criminal wrongdoing. The left will be outraged with Mueller's investigation, call him dishonest, may even want him investigated. 2. Trump committed wrongdoing, probably leading to impeachment proceedings at least. The right will be outraged with Mueller's investigation, call him dishonest, may even want him investigated. In other words, the true integrity of the investigation is irrelevant because it will be judged by the outcome and whether it was the outcome one was hoping for.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 12:36 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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So, to clarify, you don't believe there is any chance whatsoever that Trump did anything wrong or illegal and further any evidence presented to the contrary must have been manufactured by the swamp?
Do I think Trump has done some unethical things throughout his business career? Yes. Do I think he worked secretly with the Kremlin to dismantle Clinton's candidacy and illegitimately win the Presidency so he can do Putin's bidding? frick no. And you are a goddam kook of the highest order if you believe this.
Trump is no more of a slime ball than any of the last three presidents were and probably less so than Hillary.
What you are seeing now is the Swamp trying to take him down through the media. His presidency is a threat to their way of life
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:00 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I deal in facts and thus far I'm seeing no crime....hell, in terms of the business dealings on a real estate level, I'm seeing nothing
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:13 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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So, to clarify, you don't believe there is any chance whatsoever that Trump did anything wrong or illegal and further any evidence presented to the contrary must have been manufactured by the swamp?
I am certain that there will be no controlling legal authority in criminal law that can be coupled with Mueller's evidence to give rise to a probable cause that any criminal law was intentionally violated by President Donald J. Trump.
But none of that will stop Mueller from finding probable cause for some violations of criminal law, even if he has to stoop so low as to accept Flakey Comey's statement that "Trump's intent was for me to sink the investigation or get fired".
So, be glad, my son, because the Progress of American History, IMHO, inevitably leads to USA sovereignty diminished in the interests of Globalist Internationalism. The masses will live in the welfare state, fighting for scraps. Our Enlightened Rulers will live in the Ivory Towers (Racist! why not Ebony Towers?) with all of the generational wealth, prestige, power and luxury that one could desire.
The trick here is to make sure that you get into the Ruling Class.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:16 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Do I think Trump has done some unethical things throughout his business career? Yes. Do I think he worked secretly with the Kremlin to dismantle Clinton's candidacy and illegitimately win the Presidency so he can do Putin's bidding? frick no. And you are a goddam kook of the highest order if you believe this. Trump is no more of a slime ball than any of the last three presidents were and probably less so than Hillary. What you are seeing now is the Swamp trying to take him down through the media. His presidency is a threat to their way of life
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Listen to this guy, Drac! He has a Big Brain! I am simply a Medium.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:19 pm to KiwiHead
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Jr.'s meeting was ill advised. But not particularly illegal.
The money laundering guy being in the meeting extended Mueller's investigation by six months.
Posted on 7/21/17 at 1:27 pm to JuiceTerry
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you stupid motherfricker
Want to know how I know you're losing the argument?
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