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re: MSNBC - Brzezinski "Our job is to Control Exactly what people Think"

Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:29 am to
Posted by JawjaTigah
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:29 am to
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BRZEZINSKI: he could have undermined the messaging so much that he can actually control exactly what people think," Brzezinski said. "And that, that is our job."

SCARBOROUGH: "Exactly..."

Oh good, the Thought Police are still alive and welll.
Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:33 am to
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 10:35 am to
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Well I find both the government controlling what people think and the media controlling what people think to be unacceptable
This.. as well as bimbo's comment misses the mark.

People don't want to be told what to think by the press any more than they want to be told what to think by the government.

The press has wandered from its mission to inform into one that tells people what to believe. That's a huge switch.

The press traditionally held the job for keeping government accountable-by reporting fact-and letting the reader decide.

Donald Trump, and the government, haven't magically become "believeable" because they are trustworthy and credible They aren't. But neither is the "media".

Both are advocating strong to influence what we think. And worse sometimes the press is outright advocating for the government's positions (when democrats are in power).

If the media wants credibility--they need to return to fame actual reporting. Not pedealing influence for the democrat party.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 10:50 am
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 11:25 am to
Exactly.

Here's a novel fricking idea.

How about the press do investigative journalism regardless of which party is in power. Then present us with the actual facts, not opinions, and let the public make up their own fricking mind, instead of telling us what to think!

That would be refreshing.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35373 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 11:30 am to
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How about the press do investigative journalism regardless of which party is in power. Then present us with the actual facts, not opinions, and let the public make up their own fricking mind, instead of telling us what to think!
I agree, and their selectivity of doing this, depending on the party in power, is troubling.

HOWEVER, I find the complete disregard of stories when some finally do their jobs, because they didn't do it before, to be troubling as well.

We were right to criticize then for not doing their jobs, but when they finally do it, it's stupid to deflect and ignore since they didn't do it before. Otherwise, it doesn't seem like we really care whether they actually do their jobs.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 11:33 am to
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We were right to criticize then for not doing their jobs, but when they finally do it, it's stupid to deflect and ignore since they didn't do it before. Otherwise, it doesn't seem like we really care whether they actually do their jobs.


It's challenging when history tells you that they won't do their jobs the next time the Dems win this or that.

It's very strange to only do your job part time. Must be great to work part time for full time pay.
Posted by Friscodog
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 11:33 am to
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HOWEVER, I find the complete disregard of stories when some finally do their jobs, because they didn't do it before, to be troubling as well. We were right to criticize then for not doing their jobs, but when they finally do it, it's stupid to deflect and ignore since they didn't do it before. Otherwise, it doesn't seem like we really care whether they actually do their jobs.



I agree with this, however it takes time to build up credibility when you (as an industry) have lost all credibility based upon their actions, even recently. They have to realize they lost the trust of many and have to rebuild it.
Posted by CGSC Lobotomy
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 11:33 am to
La-Li-Lu-Le-Lo


LA-LI-LU-LE-LO!!
Posted by SquirrelyBama
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 11:35 am to
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Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 11:44 am to
Yes, when you are ruled by a Leftist Dictatorship, that is the Mission Objective of all information dissemination. That's why they are all working to destroy Trump so that they can have a Dem in the WH -- so they can continue the mission.
This post was edited on 2/22/17 at 11:45 am
Posted by Pussykat
South Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 11:49 am to
And there you have it! Those two are off the rails!
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 11:50 am to
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MSNBC - Brzezinski "Our job is to Control Exactly what people Think"
If Mika controlled thinking, there would be none. The woman is an airhead.
Posted by LSU MAGA
ZACHARY
Member since Feb 2017
30 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 11:57 am to
dangerous to tell the truth and follow through on campaign issues

how in the world is this dangerous

it is amazing that the left is actually coming out from under their rocks and exposing their true colors

funny thing is
the media believes everyone actually cares about what they say and agree with their leftist views

I can only hope they continue this thread of action




Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62908 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:01 pm to
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The comment failed to raise any eyebrows from her co-panelists. Instead, her co-host, Joe Scarborough, said that Trump's media antagonism puts him on par with Mussolini and Lenin
No, party-controlled media is right on par with Lenin and Mussolini - and Stalin and Mao, etc.
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:06 pm to
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Do not think that is a slip of the tongue. That is the goal. I had a liberal uncle that told me that one time, he was going to convert and have me think in the correct ways.

He sounds like an a-hole, no offense.

There is no silver bullet in media theory. That's one of the first things they teach people in "media theory" university courses. IOW - media, like the weather, can only be predicted but never perfected.

There are two things the media hilariously botched in the past year. First was thinking media shaming tactics would work -- they didn't. Second was their reliance on a failed demographics theory from 2006.

tl;dr - college students are taught that media doesn't control a damned thing, so I'm not sure why MSNBC thought otherwise.
Posted by tidalmouse
Whatsamotta U.
Member since Jan 2009
30706 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:07 pm to
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he can actually control exactly what people think. And that,that is our job."


They hate that they have all been exposed for what they are.Bought and paid for "puppets".

That idiot at cnn,Chris Coumo,saying during the campaign,that it was illegal for you and I to read the WikiLeaks E-mails,but that he had special privileges.So,we should let him read them and explain it to us.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:08 pm to
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We were right to criticize then for not doing their jobs, but when they finally do it, it's stupid to deflect and ignore since they didn't do it before
Except that isn't what's happening.

They are still doing the influence pedaling. There is no newly-found professionalism in the industry. They are still trying to tell people what to think--only now they are doing so by being opponents (to republicans)rather than advocates (to democrats).

They are worthy of being ignored because they are still trying to influence rather than inform.
Posted by JawjaTigah
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Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:14 pm to
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college students are taught that media doesn't control a damned thing, so I'm not sure why MSNBC thought otherwise.
Heard of Josef Goebbels? Control the narrative.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62908 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:14 pm to
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It's my job for me to think about issues based on facts of the issues. I don't need the media or a person to do it for me.
Especially if the people who want to tell us what to think are idiot talking heads who think the pinnacle of human accomplishment is being on TV.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
62908 posts
Posted on 2/22/17 at 12:27 pm to
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HOWEVER, I find the complete disregard of stories when some finally do their jobs, because they didn't do it before, to be troubling as well.
Except that they aren't doing their jobs. They're creating propaganda.

The "Olympian detained at airport" story is a perfect example. They ran it during the Trump travel ban in an effort to make it look like Trump's policy was the reason this "fine American" was detained, when in fact, she was detained in December of 2016, during the Obama administration.

No retractions or corrections were made. They just let the truth slip quietly to the floor. That's not "doing their jobs." That's party-controlled propaganda.
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