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re: MSM stunned into silence Obama awarded a medal to Tom Homan
Posted on 1/27/26 at 2:43 pm to TS1926
Posted on 1/27/26 at 2:43 pm to TS1926
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Did the Obama administration have "ICE Watch" and SJW's trained in the resistance to scream, blow whistles and impede and block ICE and BP from arresting rapists and murderers?
Trumps bombastic and intentionally inflammatory characterization of the ICE missions in these cities riles everyone up. He does it to satisfy his base, but the opposite also occurs.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 2:43 pm to Mickey Goldmill
What change in tactics? I keep hearing this, but no one can articulate what "change" is leading to what "outcomes".
The outcomes have been objectively safer and more accurate versus under Obama, so be specific please.
The outcomes have been objectively safer and more accurate versus under Obama, so be specific please.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 2:46 pm to David_DJS
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What change in tactics took place? (honest question, I'm unaware of any)
Masked agents in unmarked vehicles following people, chasing them down the street on foot up to their homes…using 5 year olds to knock on their doors to gain access to the kid’s parents…
Posted on 1/27/26 at 2:48 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Cmon man. do better.
What change in tactics lead to what negative outcomes? The results under Trump (under Homan) are actually SAFER and MORE ACCURATE that they were under Obama's Homan-run ICE.
What change in tactics lead to what negative outcomes? The results under Trump (under Homan) are actually SAFER and MORE ACCURATE that they were under Obama's Homan-run ICE.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 2:48 pm to Vacherie Saint
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The error rate, deaths, and non-criminal illegal alien data under Obama was substantially worse than under Trump
I must have missed this. What is the data on deaths?
Posted on 1/27/26 at 2:52 pm to Willie Stroker
Its an info graphic floating around...Let me hunt.
ETA NYP
ETA NYP
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Between the president’s Jan. 20, 2025, inauguration and the end of November, Trump’s administration arrested an extraordinary total of 595,000 illegal aliens and deported 605,000.
The 170 ICE-detained US citizens cited in Stanage’s diatribe included about 130 arrested for interfering with or assaulting officers, according to the left-leaning ProPublica — justifiable under any reading of the law.
Only about 40 or so of those who were detained claimed to be US citizens accidentally or erroneously arrested by ICE, and just half of those people were held for more than a day; most were released in a few hours.
Any error is serious, but 40 mistakes out of 595,000 arrests amounts to an error rate of just 0.0067% — roughly one wrongful detention for every 14,925 arrests.
Compare that with the final two years of President Barack Obama’s administration.
In fiscal years 2015 and 2016, ICE recorded 263 mistaken arrests, 54 mistaken detentions (book-ins), and four mistaken removals. During those two years, ICE made a mere 239,645 arrests, meaning the 54 mistaken detentions alone produced an Obama error rate of 0.0225% — about one mistake for every 4,444 arrests.
Overall, the error rate under Obama was 3.36 times higher than under Trump.
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During the course of Obama’s two terms, from 2009 to 2017, 56 individuals died in ICE custody.
That administration didn’t publish clear detention totals, but the closest available figures show about 498,646 detentions and deportations over five fiscal years, an average of roughly 99,729 per year.
If that annual rate held throughout the entire administration, ICE processed about 797,834 individuals.
Under that estimate, 56 deaths translates into a rate of 0.007% — roughly one death for every 14,314 detainees. By comparison, the rate last year under Trump was slightly lower: 0.0054%, or one death for every 18,594 detainees.
Both those figures are substantially below the average death rate for the detainee age group.
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for all the tumult and fury, ICE under Trump made no erroneous deportations through November.
By contrast, ICE under Obama deported two US citizens in fiscal year 2015, and two more in fiscal year 2016.
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 2:59 pm
Posted on 1/27/26 at 2:53 pm to cajunangelle
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So the media is taking this as a win and reporting as Tom Homan was not in the same position at ICE. Obama indeed deported a lot of illegals. No one in the media really ever made it headline news or made a big deal out of it.
Their response, already:
"But Obama did it legally and ethically, not with an army of untrained mercenary rednecks!"

Posted on 1/27/26 at 2:57 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Masked agents in unmarked vehicles following people, chasing them down the street on foot up to their homes
ICE hasn't used unmarked vehicles before? Are you sure about that?
And they've never chased runners? I doubt that's true.
The masking is a direct result of a change in the tactics of Democrats.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:01 pm to TigerAxeOK
They are using data from agitators injecting themselves into ICE operations and getting arrested, adding those to the illegal alien apprehension numbers, then telling Americans that ICE is "arresting US citizens". In case you cannot hate the left enough.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:02 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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There was a decent amount of outcry over the cages used to house illegals at that time. For the most part, Americans are fine with deporting illegal aliens if it is handled humanely and not in an overly aggressive manner
I only recall there being an issue of 'kids in cages' when Trump was first elected. Funny how we didn't get these theatrical displays before January of 2017.
And let's not forget the ridiculous lies of 'forcing migrants to drink water from TOILETS!' Things sworn members of Congress said to smear Trump and the Border Patrol /ICE agencies as a whole. Outright lies, they knew it, the public knew it, yet the MSM kept reporting it as a salacious scandal. Just as they lied about Texas Rangers WHIPPING migrants, like slave traders from the days of old.
Pathetic.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:04 pm to Bigdawgb
quote:Yeah, Biden probably kicked out Europeans and White South Africans.
Actually pretty stunned to see President autopen somehow deported that many people.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:05 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Exactly, you don't see the DEA proudly looking for drug dealers. They do the work and prep and then come get you. Eveyone understands why they snatched the neighborhood dealer up and all are safe.
IcE is chaos, tv drama, fear factor.
Tom deserved the medal then bc he did it the right way. Now? Not so and decent people don't like that.
IcE is chaos, tv drama, fear factor.
Tom deserved the medal then bc he did it the right way. Now? Not so and decent people don't like that.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:07 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Ahhh, I have missed the gay prose of Mickey the Cuckmill....like I would miss being kicked in the junk.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:10 pm to PurpleCrush
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Tom deserved the medal then bc he did it the right way.
They are doing it exactly the same way now. But I'll give you the opportunity to tell the board, (since Mickey ran away to get fresh talking points) what changes in tactics have been made and how have those changes lead to negative outcomes?
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:13 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Masked agents in unmarked vehicles following people, chasing them down the street on foot up to their homes…using 5 year olds to knock on their doors to gain access to the kid’s parents…
Yes
We're much wiser now. These swirthy bastards will literally hide underground. They unearthed a family of 5 that were hiding in a storm shelter in Indiana last week.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:19 pm to hogcard1964
Not Yes.
This response by Cucky Goldshill is a lie.
Masking is not new. Federal agents have worked covertly and undercover since forever. The increased use in masking, in part, is a response to an 8000% increase in death threats to ICE agents by the lunatic left.
Chasing wanted criminal or apprehending them at their home is also not new. Im not even sure WTF he is getting at with that comment.
Lastly, the 5 year old media hit piece was nuked though the galaxy last week. One of the more shameful media lies we've heard in a long time - and thats saying something.
This response by Cucky Goldshill is a lie.
Masking is not new. Federal agents have worked covertly and undercover since forever. The increased use in masking, in part, is a response to an 8000% increase in death threats to ICE agents by the lunatic left.
Chasing wanted criminal or apprehending them at their home is also not new. Im not even sure WTF he is getting at with that comment.
Lastly, the 5 year old media hit piece was nuked though the galaxy last week. One of the more shameful media lies we've heard in a long time - and thats saying something.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:21 pm to Vacherie Saint
Not the same way at all,
Reality TV for him is diff than not on TV everyday when Obama deported many more humanely than Donny ever will.
Negative outcome is Trumps immigration polling numbers are terrible, masked agents pushing women, acting like bouncers at a bar, etc.
Ask Trump if he is happy now with the optics and is why Tommy boy is cleaning up in MN
Reality TV for him is diff than not on TV everyday when Obama deported many more humanely than Donny ever will.
Negative outcome is Trumps immigration polling numbers are terrible, masked agents pushing women, acting like bouncers at a bar, etc.
Ask Trump if he is happy now with the optics and is why Tommy boy is cleaning up in MN
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:24 pm to captainFid
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Yeah, Biden probably kicked out Europeans and White South Africans.
If they were here illegally, IDGAF.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:24 pm to PurpleCrush
don't dodge.
what are the specific new tactics? and how are the outcomes worse? Be specific.
Because we have the data.... and the outcomes are better, safer, and more accurate than under Obama. Turn off CNN and use your brain if you have one.
what are the specific new tactics? and how are the outcomes worse? Be specific.
Because we have the data.... and the outcomes are better, safer, and more accurate than under Obama. Turn off CNN and use your brain if you have one.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 3:35 pm to Vacherie Saint
Covertly and undercover is completely different than masked men bum rushing innocent people.
They are masked bc they are scared to be outed,
This IS new in the US, don't get it twisted.
Police ID themselves and explain why they pull over one for traffic violations bc we both have rights, for now. They didn't even mask up during covid. And we require popo to have body cams to
They are masked bc they are scared to be outed,
This IS new in the US, don't get it twisted.
Police ID themselves and explain why they pull over one for traffic violations bc we both have rights, for now. They didn't even mask up during covid. And we require popo to have body cams to
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