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re: Mrs M is in Lane Hospital struggling with double Covid pneumonia.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 5:28 pm to Eurocat
Posted on 1/8/22 at 5:28 pm to Eurocat
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The Editor in Chief and His Deputies - Editorial Board Editor-In-Chief Paul E. Sax, MD is Clinical Director of the Division of Infectious Diseases at Brigham and Women's Hospital (BWH), and Professor of Medicine at Harvard Medical School. He is Editor-in-Chief of Open Forum Infectious Diseases. Deputy Editor Jonathan Z. Li, MD is an Associate Professor of Medicine in the Division of Infectious Diseases at the Brigham and Women’s Hospital and Harvard Medical School. Associate Deputy Editor Andrej Spec, MD, MSCI is an Assistant Professor in the Division of Infectious Disease at Washington University in St Louis, Missouri, where he also serves as the Associate Director of the Infectious Disease Clinical Research Unt and leads both the Invasive Mycoses Clinic as well as the Washington University Mycoses Group.
Why would I trust any of them?
Serious question?
I mean, the shite bag governor for Louisiana is supposed to be Mr. Honor Code - from West Point.
I don’t get your blind faith in people that easily could be bought and paid for (I’m not saying that they are...but, nothing would surprise me).
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 5:51 pm to jimmy the leg
Because I think the Clinical Director of the Division of Infectious Diseases at Harvard University writing in a journal put out by Oxford University can be trusted.
Will he ever be wrong? Of course. Nick Saban and Bill Belicheck don't win EVERY game. But I'd rather trust Saban/Belicheck over some internet poster or internet blogger about football questions and strategy and I'll take the word of the Clinical Director of the Division of Infectious Diseases at Harvard University over some internet poster or internet blogger when it comes to Covid related issues.
Will he ever be wrong? Of course. Nick Saban and Bill Belicheck don't win EVERY game. But I'd rather trust Saban/Belicheck over some internet poster or internet blogger about football questions and strategy and I'll take the word of the Clinical Director of the Division of Infectious Diseases at Harvard University over some internet poster or internet blogger when it comes to Covid related issues.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 6:20 pm to Eurocat
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Because I think the Clinical Director of the Division of Infectious Diseases at Harvard University writing in a journal put out by Oxford University can be trusted.
We will agree to disagree then.
So far we have been lied to and / or mislead by Dr. Fauci, the WHO, the CDC, the FDA, the NIH, the LDH, and numerous physicians.
Trust, at this point, will have to be earned going forward.
Just my take.
This post was edited on 1/8/22 at 6:22 pm
Posted on 1/8/22 at 6:24 pm to Eurocat
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Because I think the Clinical Director of the Division of Infectious Diseases at Harvard University writing in a journal put out by Oxford University can be trusted.
Do you trust the bitch in India facing mass murder charges for her role in discouraging ivermectin use? You know the big shot bitch that works for the WHO.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 6:43 pm to jimmy the leg
quote:What does that even mean?
Ivermectin, when used as a prophylactic, was shown to have a positive impact (placebo or otherwise).
Posted on 1/8/22 at 7:06 pm to omegaman66
No "bitch" is facing any "mass murder" charges in India.
A lobbying group called the Indian Bar Association has submitted a civil (not criminal) lawsuit against her - for a tweet.
So you would think whoa, that sounds serious.
Except the name is a trick.
The Bar Association is just a group of lawyers.
The group that does the Bar Association work like in the USA exists - but it is not called that the group that does the work is the BOMBAY bar association.
You are being tricked.
Cut and paste -
In May 2021, an entity by the name of the Indian Bar Association (IBA) served a legal notice to Swaminathan for spreading "disinformation" about the effectiveness of ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment. The entity alleges that ivermectin, an anti-parasitic, is effective in treating COVID-19. WHO doesn't recommend ivermectin.
The Mumbai-based IBA has no statutory or regulatory status in India and should not be confused with the Bombay Bar Association, which is the official association of lawyers practicing in the Bombay High Court.
Furthermore, it is important to note that "sending a legal notice" is not the same as charges being filed in a court of law.
IBA describes itself as “an association of lawyers who are united in the cause of bringing in transparency and accountability in Indian judiciary." In its 51-page long notice, IBA alleges that Dr. Swaminathan has “intentionally ignored” and “deliberately chosen” to ignore the research and findings of fellow doctors and physicians such as U.S.-based Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) and the British Ivermectin Recommendation Development (BIRD) Panel, which claim that ivermectin is useful as a prophylactic and for treating COVID-19.
FLCCC has been notorious for promoting ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19. It has falsely stated that ivermectin is “effectively a ‘miracle drug’” that could obliterate COVID-19 transmission and prevent illness, and an article written by its members was taken down from the peer-reviewed journal Frontiers in Pharmacology for making unsubstantiated claims.
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A lobbying group called the Indian Bar Association has submitted a civil (not criminal) lawsuit against her - for a tweet.
So you would think whoa, that sounds serious.
Except the name is a trick.
The Bar Association is just a group of lawyers.
The group that does the Bar Association work like in the USA exists - but it is not called that the group that does the work is the BOMBAY bar association.
You are being tricked.
Cut and paste -
In May 2021, an entity by the name of the Indian Bar Association (IBA) served a legal notice to Swaminathan for spreading "disinformation" about the effectiveness of ivermectin as a COVID-19 treatment. The entity alleges that ivermectin, an anti-parasitic, is effective in treating COVID-19. WHO doesn't recommend ivermectin.
The Mumbai-based IBA has no statutory or regulatory status in India and should not be confused with the Bombay Bar Association, which is the official association of lawyers practicing in the Bombay High Court.
Furthermore, it is important to note that "sending a legal notice" is not the same as charges being filed in a court of law.
IBA describes itself as “an association of lawyers who are united in the cause of bringing in transparency and accountability in Indian judiciary." In its 51-page long notice, IBA alleges that Dr. Swaminathan has “intentionally ignored” and “deliberately chosen” to ignore the research and findings of fellow doctors and physicians such as U.S.-based Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) and the British Ivermectin Recommendation Development (BIRD) Panel, which claim that ivermectin is useful as a prophylactic and for treating COVID-19.
FLCCC has been notorious for promoting ivermectin as a treatment for COVID-19. It has falsely stated that ivermectin is “effectively a ‘miracle drug’” that could obliterate COVID-19 transmission and prevent illness, and an article written by its members was taken down from the peer-reviewed journal Frontiers in Pharmacology for making unsubstantiated claims.
LINK
Posted on 1/8/22 at 7:11 pm to Diamondawg
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What does that even mean?
It means if you take ivermectin or a sugar pill, you get better in 3 days if you aren’t a fatass
This post was edited on 1/8/22 at 7:11 pm
Posted on 1/8/22 at 7:15 pm to jimmy the leg
I am not a blind follower of "authority" either Jimmy The Leg. I could never be on a jury because I don't trust defense lawyers and I also don't trust prosecutors and cops. Too many innocents on death row. Too many Duke rape cases.
But at some point you have to "look at the evidence" and see where the scales tip and also who is behind them, Oxford and Harvard or some blogger dude. In this case the scales tip way to the side of the vaccines. At some point the questioning goes to the point of not trusting anybody or anything and that's just not right.
Have a pleasant weekend.
But at some point you have to "look at the evidence" and see where the scales tip and also who is behind them, Oxford and Harvard or some blogger dude. In this case the scales tip way to the side of the vaccines. At some point the questioning goes to the point of not trusting anybody or anything and that's just not right.
Have a pleasant weekend.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 7:23 pm to Eurocat
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Ivermectin did not show a statistically significant effect on survival or hospitalizations.
Duh! It's not an anti-viral drug.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 7:31 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
Was she vaccinated? If not, that would have been a good first step. However, I hope she gets well.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 7:34 pm to Eurocat
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I also don't trust prosecutors and cops.
Ironically, the data suggests that you should.
You are being inconsistent in the application of your moral compass imho.
Again, we will agree to disagree on the current iteration of the medical establishment. I believe it to be an absolute and unadulterated shite show.
Just my .02.
Back at ya on enjoying the weekend.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 7:38 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
Prayers for you and your wife. Hope she gets the treatment she deserves.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 7:38 pm to Eurocat
So do you trust her?
Posted on 1/8/22 at 7:42 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
I do not know how bad it is right now but if she can get her on her stomach (prone) it helped my oxygen level better than anything else I tried ( I still try to do it) May our God be your peace and your wifes healer!
Posted on 1/8/22 at 7:53 pm to j1897
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Duh! It's not an anti-viral drug
Posted on 1/8/22 at 7:54 pm to j1897
quote:But it is! That why we suspect 'river blindness'.
Duh! It's not an anti-viral drug
Posted on 1/8/22 at 7:56 pm to j1897
quote:But it is! That why we suspect 'river blindness'countries are less prone to CV-19 outbreaks.
Duh! It's not an anti-viral drug
Posted on 1/8/22 at 7:59 pm to Eurocat
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I'll take the word of the Clinical Director of the Division of Infectious Diseases at Harvard University over some internet poster or internet blogger when it comes to Covid related issues.
Naive. The Clinical Director is high profile and has direct skin in the ideological and career game; there WILL be personal consequences for 'wrong think'.
Prayers for your Lady, E. And you and yours.
Posted on 1/8/22 at 11:03 pm to Eurocat
Posted on 1/8/22 at 11:32 pm to Mr. Misanthrope
Oh dear God- praying for you and your wife!! I’m a nurse and I tell everyone the last thing u want to do is go to the hospital because patients tend to do worse— I don’t know what they are doing, but it isn’t helping. I honestly hope u have a good doctor who isn’t more worried about getting their Covid reimbursement than saving their patients!! Plz continue to advocate for her and don’t let them do anything u are uncomfortable with- they must listen to the family. Prayers sent your way!
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