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re: Mortality rate as of yesterday is 1.2%
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:19 am to Man With A Plan
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:19 am to Man With A Plan
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These daily threads downplaying a Global pandemic have gotten very old fast.
350 deaths in a country of 360,000,000. Do the math. It is statistically insignificant.
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Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:20 am to Boatshoes
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Why do you think that is?
They made an economic deal with China, thus inviting tens of thousands of Chinese workers into Lombardy, while we did not.
It also wasn't bright for the mayor of Florence or wherever it was to start a "hug a Chinese person" campaign sometime last month in response to our early measures to stave off a possible pandemic in the United States.
This plague might be a blessing in disguise. Hopefully this event will signal the end of globalism and political correctness.
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:20 am to Boatshoes
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Why do you think that is?
Still??
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:22 am to cave canem
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As the death toll rises
The positive tests will outpace them dramatically. The end result is mortality in US will drop dramatically.
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:22 am to CoachChappy
The amount infected at 27,000 is statistically insignificant for 360,000,000
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:26 am to StringedInstruments
To give the reassuring side, Most people will be fine no matter what we do (though the message to the public is to distance to hold down cases to avoid overwhelming spike in serious cases). Serious cases are in the ballpark of 20% and worldwide mortality will be held down by good care. We want it to be available to all. Yes, providers can go to back to work eventually. Yes, social distancing and shelter-in-place will help. We’ll probably innovate some helpful treatments.
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:26 am to KiwiHead
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The amount infected at 27,000 is statistically insignificant for 360,000,000
Meanwhile, the seasonal flu has KILLED about 1/3 of our total number of kung flu cases, yet no one bats an eye.
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:32 am to IslandBuckeye
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The positive tests will outpace them dramatically. The end result is mortality in US will drop dramatically.
Why thank you captain obvious for that pearl of wisdom, do you have any others?
There is plenty of room between we are all dead and this is no big deal, the problem is both sides have tuned this into a political shitshow, if you hate Trump it is all his fault, if you suck him off at every oppurtunity then 2,500 dead is just peachy because it is all just a democrat hoax anyway.
Here is a fact for you to chew on, this will kill more Americans that 911 or Pearl Harbor before it ends, were those "statistically insignificant" as well?
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:34 am to StringedInstruments
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26863 total cases and 348 deaths.
Obviously this administration is working to get things handled!
Swine Flu averaged like 663 deaths per month before obomo got off his arse to do something.
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:36 am to cave canem
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There is plenty of room between we are all dead and this is no big deal
I exist in this range. I believe we are going too far at this point. My response to you supported this stance.
Feel free to debate without further ad hominem.
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:39 am to StringedInstruments
I just woke up...do you know if my doors were nailed shut by the local storm trooper last night or was that just a misguided opinion from the Next Door Neighbor app?
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:47 am to mtntiger
Ok, this is not the flu. While the flu is infectious and kills thousands every year, the curve of infections is slow because many people get vaccinated and many people have immunity to the particular flu that goes around.
So in a sense there already is a social distancing because the flu doesn't come into contact with as many eligible targets as this does.
This flu season is the whole winter and it tends to spread slowly thought the population, not overwhelming the healthcare system.
This is different. It is a novel virus that no one had any immunity. Every person that comes into contact with it is a Target and can be infected.
This has the ability to quickly run through a population and even though only a low amount of people get sick, because everyone gets it at once, everyone needs to be hospitalized at the same time and overwhelms the system.
The United States is bringing everything to bear on this virus. The amount of research on this thing is amazing.
We have come from tests taking three days to get results to getting results in 45 minutes. Within a week we have done that. Google has built a Nationwide testing guide as well. We have a number of promising therapies inside a week. Hcq and zithromax combination treatment has been known less that a well since our social distancing has gone into effect.
If this treatment lessens the number of people who need to be hospitalized, the peak of this curve just plummeted.
The treatment will lessen the time of being sick. Hopefully it also lessens the degree of illness. If it cuts viral load quickly, one would think if you have it to high risk people prior to getting really sick it likely prevents them from getting really sick.
While this makes sense, sometimes things don't work like this so we are figuring this out quickly.
I said when this first came out we would have a treatment within 2 to 4 weeks.
Seems like we have a treatment in less than a week. I figured testing would be up and mobilized in two weeks time. This is now rolling out everywhere is a week.
I said we will have a vaccine in four months. This is a breathtakingly fast time for a vaccine. However if I was overstocking the response, then this vaccine may be out faster which should amaze people.
However if these treatments work as I suspect, and if prophylaxis with certain meds work, we may not need a vaccine.
So in a sense there already is a social distancing because the flu doesn't come into contact with as many eligible targets as this does.
This flu season is the whole winter and it tends to spread slowly thought the population, not overwhelming the healthcare system.
This is different. It is a novel virus that no one had any immunity. Every person that comes into contact with it is a Target and can be infected.
This has the ability to quickly run through a population and even though only a low amount of people get sick, because everyone gets it at once, everyone needs to be hospitalized at the same time and overwhelms the system.
The United States is bringing everything to bear on this virus. The amount of research on this thing is amazing.
We have come from tests taking three days to get results to getting results in 45 minutes. Within a week we have done that. Google has built a Nationwide testing guide as well. We have a number of promising therapies inside a week. Hcq and zithromax combination treatment has been known less that a well since our social distancing has gone into effect.
If this treatment lessens the number of people who need to be hospitalized, the peak of this curve just plummeted.
The treatment will lessen the time of being sick. Hopefully it also lessens the degree of illness. If it cuts viral load quickly, one would think if you have it to high risk people prior to getting really sick it likely prevents them from getting really sick.
While this makes sense, sometimes things don't work like this so we are figuring this out quickly.
I said when this first came out we would have a treatment within 2 to 4 weeks.
Seems like we have a treatment in less than a week. I figured testing would be up and mobilized in two weeks time. This is now rolling out everywhere is a week.
I said we will have a vaccine in four months. This is a breathtakingly fast time for a vaccine. However if I was overstocking the response, then this vaccine may be out faster which should amaze people.
However if these treatments work as I suspect, and if prophylaxis with certain meds work, we may not need a vaccine.
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:55 am to mtntiger
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Meanwhile, the seasonal flu has KILLED about 1/3 of our total number of kung flu cases, yet no one bats an eye
Hopefully, that will continue to be the case.
I would hate for the Karen brigade and frightened politicians to conclude this current response should be the norm for "deadly" viruses.
Posted on 3/22/20 at 7:57 am to thetempleowl
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This post was edited on 3/22/20 at 5:55 pm
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:00 am to StringedInstruments
Stop stating this percentage, it’s meaningless. We do not have, nor will we have, an accurate denominator. Over half the people contacting the virus are asymptomatic (and won’t ever be counted), and right now only the most affected are being tested (appropriately).
That number is, and will be, complete BS.
That number is, and will be, complete BS.
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:00 am to trinidadtiger
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How many 100s of thousands had it, got over it and will never be tested?
Don't know, but surely a lot. We won't know for sure what the CFR is until the end of the year, imo.
I would bet in the coming months almost anyone with flu-like symptoms will get tested since testing is ramping up now.
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:04 am to IslandBuckeye
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I exist in this range. I believe we are going too far at this point. My response to you supported this stance.
Feel free to debate without further ad hominem.
Please accept my humble appologies
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:08 am to mtntiger
No one wants to talk about the seasonal flu because the Dems haven’t figured out how blame it on Trump. Yet.
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:08 am to AUstar
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Not a good metric. Most all of those cases are still active and we don't yet know how they will fare.
it's the same metric that was used when they were running around with that ridiculous 3.4% number
Posted on 3/22/20 at 8:10 am to cave canem
quote:the flu kills more than died in Pearl harbor every year too you idiot
Here is a fact for you to chew on, this will kill more Americans that 911 or Pearl Harbor before it ends, were those "statistically insignificant" as well?
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