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Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:15 am to tivey6301
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Therefore EVERYTHING is an entitlement
This REALLY sounds like something a leftist would say...
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:15 am to Knartfocker
quote:And then you want people to take you and your opinions seriously? Wow.
To paraphrase Billy Madison, "Nope. No you wouldn't"
quote:I bet you got a gubment teat in your mouth right now.
so I can properly get muh benefits
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:17 am to tivey6301
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NOTHING the government does "saves" for the future. Therefore EVERYTHING is an entitlement.
No entitlements are redistribution programs that specific populations are entitled to.
We all can use roads.
We call can't get Medicare/SS. Only the select do.
That's the difference in public goods, redistribution programs, and entitlements.
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Says the pompous, pretentious, condescending, arrogant libtard.
I am arguing for conservative principles and you call me a liberal?
Kind of proving my point inadvertently, I see.
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l. You can get those and NEVER work a day in your life. Completely different.
You're changing the framing. We aren't talking about them. We are talking about you.
You have the same entitlements to Section 8, SNAP, etc. as Medicare/SS. You just have to end up in that chosen population.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:17 am to TejasHorn
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He stands against wokeness and…. Well that seems to be about it.
You can sum up the current state of the Republican Party with that statement.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:20 am to idlewatcher
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Trump is boring AF.
Fix'd it for you. The Magnificent One puts me to sleep faster than a Benadryl/ narcan sandwich.
With Trump, it's just the same canned speeches and silly name-calling ("DeSanctimonious") warmed over. Then the rest of his rallies consist solely of talking bout hisself and how he was cheated out of this or that election. BOR-ing!!!
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:22 am to tivey6301
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And then you want people to take you and your opinions seriously? Wow.
Not generally, no. But maybe one person will see what I say and have a change of heart.
I'm pretty sure I've badmouthed SlowFlo on this board before, but he's absolutely on the money here. And using facts and logic to refute every one of your posts. So you resort to "if I were younger I would kick your arse". Then try an ad hominem when someone calls you out. Which only confirms that you couldn't, in fact, kick his arse even if you were younger.
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I bet you got a gubment teat in your mouth right now.
I could only hope to be so lucky. All I have is the gubment dick in my arse
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:23 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:Not to me. You're a mouthy little arse with vagina juice in your veins. Face to face, you'd tuck your tail and run under the porch.
Doubtful
quote:So those that worked and provided need to sacrifice the same as those that won't work?
You guys don't understand. We have to cut BOTH sides of this coin.
My guess is that when your parents are old, you will let them fend for themselves hoping they will die and you can get an inheritance.
quote:Changes need to be made everywhere. I say lets start with the freeloading teat sucklers that didn't work and pay into the system for 50+ years.
These entitlements are going to grown to unsustainable levels.
quote:All of the money we spend on illegals could be spent on SS/Medicare. Kinda has something to do with it.
This has literally nothing to do with SS/Medicare funding.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:23 am to SlowFlowPro
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And I asked you questions that you didn't respond to.
I wonder why
You have no idea.
That's the issue... will remain the issue. Your lack of an ability to think outside the box.
Trump is calling for the end of FICA..etc. Your mind can not fathom another way.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:26 am to SlowFlowPro
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This has literally nothing to do with SS/Medicare funding.
You and JJ both just made this mistake.
It's not a mistake. It's you that fails to understand the what's being said in context of "another way" and Trump's plan.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:26 am to Knartfocker
quote:No. I'd stomp your arse right now. I never really liked hominy or 50 cent words.
So you resort to "if I were younger I would kick your arse".
quote:So the old have got one in their arse for 50+ years and you don't want them to get a teat. BUT you'd love to have a teat yourself? At least you're honest about being a freeloader i guess.
I could only hope to be so lucky. All I have is the gubment dick in my arse
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 10:28 am
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:26 am to Jjdoc
You guys are single-handedly turning some of Trumps historically strongest supporters against him. It's amazing to watch.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:27 am to tivey6301
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Not to me. You're a mouthy little arse with vagina juice in your veins. Face to face, you'd tuck your tail and run under the porch.
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So those that worked and provided need to sacrifice the same as those that won't work?
Those who worked and provided got to live most of their lives in a society living off credit cards, which raised their earnings and standard of living a great deal. If you squandered that abundance and opportunity, it's your own fault.
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Changes need to be made everywhere. I say lets start with the freeloading teat sucklers that didn't work and pay into the system for 50+ years.
How do they qualify for SS if they didn't pay in? You want to kick off a lot of Boomer widows?
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All of the money we spend on illegals could be spent on SS/Medicare.
so you want to use general funding (which also has to be cut) to prop up a failing, unsustainable Entitlement system? Sounds like you're on a sinking boat and throwing water from the front (where the hole it) to the back of the boat (which is filling up, too, just more slowly)
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:29 am to Jjdoc
Enough with the polls. They are meaningless.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:29 am to Jjdoc
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You have no idea.
That's the issue...
Says the guy who either doesn't understand how SS/Medicare are funded or wants to propose an incredibly Leftist "solution" (which won't work, like most Leftist economic policies).
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Your lack of an ability to think outside the box.
You mean lie and self delude myself?
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Your mind can not fathom another way.
You haven't proposed anything of any substance that will solve the problem, either.
You just proposed Leftist reshuffling of inadequate funding sources
Ok cool, you illegally used discretionary military funding to temporarily plug a hole in the sinking SS ship. Now you've exacerbated our discretionary debt-spending issues by the same amount. Net result: nothing.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:32 am to Knartfocker
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I'm pretty sure I've badmouthed SlowFlo on this board before, but he's absolutely on the money here.
No he isn;t at all.
- We are here. We can not pick up in the past and it never have been done. No Time Machines.
- As it stands, we have made promises to people about SS...etc. Why do you feel we can not fix this without moving the age?
- As it stands, we need to end it. So you have to transition people away from it.
There are many solutions, but it requires somebody to think in those terms...
- Honor our promise..
- while bringing it to an end.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:33 am to DavidTheGnome
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The agreement with the elderly, Jesus. Can't push retirement age back a couple years to make the fund solvent because "they promised!"
I want it gone.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:34 am to Jjdoc
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As it stands, we have made promises to people a
This is a strawman.
Also, this is Leftist bullshite. If you make this argument, then it applies to EVERY incidental piece of government spending.
Now nothing can be cut. Ever. Awesome.
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Why do you feel we can not fix this without moving the age?
Look at the graphs I posted.
There will literally not be enough economy to support these programs.
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Honor our promise..
- while bringing it to an end.
So people who will not ever receive it will continue to fund it? As the funding requires an incredible amount of the GDP they live in, removing their salary, goods, savings, etc. due to less economic opportunity? Sounds fair. Totally reasonable and "outside of the box"
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 10:35 am
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:34 am to SlowFlowPro
At least you didn't deny that you have vagina juice in your veins.
In the end I believe that American Citizens need to be taken care of first. I also believe that EVERYONE of us owe a debt of gratitude to those that worked hard to build this once great nation.
quote:You actually know nothing about my situation. I could NEVER get one cent from SS and I'd be fine. I just believe in what is right and wrong.
Those who worked and provided got to live most of their lives in a society living off credit cards, which raised their earnings and standard of living a great deal. If you squandered that abundance and opportunity, it's your own fault.
quote:The husband paid in. But then, you knew that.
How do they qualify for SS if they didn't pay in? You want to kick off a lot of Boomer widows?
quote:What does it matter where the funds come from? The politicans have been stealing from the SS "lockbox" for years. Use those "general funds" to pay back the IOU's.
so you want to use general funding (which also has to be cut) to prop up a failing, unsustainable Entitlement system?
In the end I believe that American Citizens need to be taken care of first. I also believe that EVERYONE of us owe a debt of gratitude to those that worked hard to build this once great nation.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:35 am to tivey6301
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So the old have got one in their arse for 50+ years and you don't want them to get a teat. BUT you'd love to have a teat yourself? At least you're honest about being a freeloader i guess.
I guess rape is ok so long as the rapist allows a bit of foreplay.
That's the point you're making and you don't even realize it
You've been robbed. I've been robbed. Everyone has been robbed. I want the robbery to stop. You want it to keep going because you were robbed longer. That's it. That's your entire stance on SS/Medicare because in the end you got "yours".
Cowardly.
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