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re: Morning Consult released 33 minutes ago. Trump leads 70% on issues
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:36 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:36 am to SlowFlowPro
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Says the guy who either doesn't understand how SS/Medicare are funded or wants to propose an incredibly Leftist "solution" (which won't work, like most Leftist economic policies).
No I understand how it's funded and paid. This isn't about keeping things status quo. It's about a solution!
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You haven't proposed anything of any substance that will solve the problem, either.
You just proposed Leftist reshuffling of inadequate funding sources
Ignorance
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Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:38 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I'm calling you a liberal because you are acting like a pompous, pretentious, condescending liberal...
I am arguing for conservative principles and you call me a liberal?
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:38 am to tivey6301
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You actually know nothing about my situation.
No I don't. I'm speaking generally about the benefits of this spending (and how you won't have to pay for it).
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The husband paid in. But then, you knew that.
Who is receiving SS without contributing? I thought you had to have 10 years of tax paying to be eligible for the entitlement?
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What does it matter where the funds come from?
Literally the law and constitution.
But if we're just ignoring those things, anything is possible I suppose. Can't wait to see what the DEMs do with that sort of system
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:39 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:That's what is happening with welfare and food stamps. I certainly won't ever use it...
So people who will not ever receive it will continue to fund it?
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:39 am to Jjdoc
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This isn't about keeping things status quo. It's about a solution!
Yes, as I said, a Leftist "solution" (which won't work, like with most Leftist economic policies).
You've yet to explain how this would work in totality with our economic outlook and other federal spending/obligations.
And you've yet to explain how this would be legal or Constitutional (and then, how it wouldn't be abused by the DEMs when they get power)
This post was edited on 5/31/23 at 10:40 am
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:40 am to tivey6301
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I'm calling you a liberal because you are acting like a pompous, pretentious, condescending liberal...
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:46 am to SlowFlowPro
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Also, this is Leftist bull shite. If you make this argument, then it applies to EVERY incidental piece of government spending.
Now nothing can be cut. Ever. Awesome.
You are straight up lying about what I just said! Straight up lying. In the very post you are quoting from, ending it is mentioned!
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Look at the graphs I posted.
There will literally not be enough economy to support these programs.
With the system currently in place. You ignore everything else. It's dishonest
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So people who will not ever receive it will continue to fund it? As the funding requires an incredible amount of the GDP they live in, removing their salary, goods, savings, etc. due to less economic opportunity? Sounds fair. Totally reasonable and "outside of the box"
Perfect example of not being able to think outside the box!
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:46 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:I've been paying for it for 40+ years.
(and how you won't have to pay for it).
quote:If you're really this stupid, you should cut back on the pompous/pretentious comments. The widows (if they didn't work a public job) did work in the home (think 1950's) and they deserve some benefits from the husband that passed early. Most widows (not on welfare) though, did work and pay into SS. You knew this too.
Who is receiving SS without contributing? I thought you had to have 10 years of tax paying to be eligible for the entitlement?
quote:You were talking about the coming collapse of the economy due to too much spending, not the constitution. The constitution also doesn't say the politicians can take from the SS lockbox and leave an IOU but both sides have been doing it since the 60's.
Literally the law and constitution.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:46 am to SlowFlowPro
What are you 12?
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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Yes, as I said, a Leftist "solution" (which won't work, like with most Leftist economic policies).
LMAO!! No it's a solution!
How is bringing it to and end "Leftist"? Ignorance!
How is honoring our promise leftist? Ignorance!
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And you've yet to explain how this would be legal or Constitutional
Already have. Trump wants to end Fica. Move the system to be able to allow funding in other ways.
That's not a hard concept.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:49 am to Jjdoc
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You are straight up lying about what I just said!
No I'm showing how your argument is short-sided.
If we can't cut SS/Medicare b/c it was a "promise", then literally anything funded by the government is a similar promise.
That's what WILL happen if your rhetoric becomes a precedent. Leftists will love that.
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With the system currently in place. You ignore everything else. It's dishonest
Your solution hasn't solved the cost-spending problem.
Your solution is a (illegal and likely unconstitutional) funding scheme. It doesn't address cost-spending.
That's why my response was in terms of our economy (and not taxation). We won't have an economy that has enough left over to both support this program and a functioning society.
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Perfect example of not being able to think outside the box!
I'm describing YOUR system, just the parts you aren't capable of seeing "outside of the box".
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:51 am to tivey6301
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I've been paying for it for 40+ years.
No. You paid for the spending and benefits of the past.
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The widows (if they didn't work a public job) did work in the home (think 1950's) and they deserve some benefits from the husband that passed early. Most widows (not on welfare) though, did work and pay into SS. You knew this too.
Yeah Ok cool. That's why I made the joke in the first place. Thanks for explaining my joke back to me
What non-widows who didn't work 10 years are receiving SS?
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You were talking about the coming collapse of the economy due to too much spending, not the constitution
So we get to ignore the constitution now? For what other issues?
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The constitution also doesn't say the politicians can take from the SS lockbox and leave an IOU but both sides have been doing it since the 60's.
Well yeah b/c the law is a Congressional Act, not a constitutional one.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:52 am to tivey6301
quote:
What are you 12?
no. I posted a funny picture of a "pompous, pretentious, condescending liberal" responding like I did while reading your post
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:52 am to Knartfocker
quote:Really?
I guess rape is ok so long as the rapist allows a bit of foreplay.
quote:Me too. I just want the stopping to start with those that haven't contributed anything to the system and those that have illegally invaded my country to suckle from the teat.
I want the robbery to stop.
I may be a LOT of things, but a coward isn't one of them.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:53 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:No, you were acting like a child.
I posted a funny picture
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:53 am to tivey6301
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No, you were acting like a child.
Technically, Trump was.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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No I'm showing how your argument is short-sided.
No you straight up lied by saying I stated "Nothing can ever be cut". That's a lie. And that's what you have to resort to in order to remain latched on to your old point of view from the GOPE.
I never stated that. In fact, I stated Trump wants to end FICA taxes. That is cutting.
I stated change to system to be allow it to be funded in different ways while people transition off of it.
That's ending it. So now that's a LEFTIST idea.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:59 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:What in the government isn't that way? Why does it matter?
No. You paid for the spending and benefits of the past.
quote:I don't recall posting that they were. If I did, it was a typo and a mistake. The welfare recipients are the ones taking and having not provided for 50+ years.
What non-widows who didn't work 10 years are receiving SS?
quote:Ignore it how? The politicians took money out of the lockbox and left IOU's. We stop spending on welfare/illegals. Use that money to payback the IOU's. If that isn't enough to fix SS, then we cut. No issue with the constitution. If you can't understand this, you really need to stop the pompous/pretentious stuff because you are not smart.
So we get to ignore the constitution now?
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:59 am to Jjdoc
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No you straight up lied by saying I stated "Nothing can ever be cut".
No I didn't. This is my exact quote
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Also, this is Leftist bullshite. If you make this argument, then it applies to EVERY incidental piece of government spending.
I said your argument would be applied to all government spending. I didn't say you said that. Again, I'm showing you how your argument is short-sided.
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I stated change to system to be allow it to be funded in different ways while people transition off of it.
Shuffling chairs on the Titanic.
Posted on 5/31/23 at 10:59 am to SlowFlowPro
Perhaps he was. Doesn't change the fact that by posting the picture, you were acting like a child.
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