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re: Morehouse parish closing schools/ Voucher Question

Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:02 pm to
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:02 pm to
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Most charter schools in Louisiana are a joke. They are run more like a for profit college than an actual school.


Republicans are for school choice, right?
Posted by shamrock
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
3621 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:07 pm to
I certainly am and I’m a conservative. I’d rather have two potential choices vs one bad option every day.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32543 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:21 pm to
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Republicans are for school choice, right?


I am a republican, but am not for school choice in the way republicans are proposing it. While it has the possibility to help a handful of students escape a terrible school, it will not change education for the better the way it’s being promised. Until “entitlements” are heavily reformed, our public schools will continue to decline.

FTR I teach in a public school.
Posted by Chuker
St George, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2015
7544 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:36 pm to
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we should support each other.



I feel like with a certain type of people that is a one way street.
Posted by KemoSabe65
70605
Member since Mar 2018
5145 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:37 pm to
Law of unintended consequences doin work in Mohouse parish. Most that can send their kids to Prairie or OCS and just deal with the cost. Beekman charter is from what iam told a good school as is pine grove that’s on the closure list. And bastrop is indeed a shithole and will probably always will be going forward.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 6:58 pm to
How much do private schools like Prairie View cost?
Posted by dixiechick
Member since Sep 2017
918 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 7:17 pm to
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Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 7:30 pm to
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They shouldn’t be, but many are and I would say they are confused. Expanding the private education secotor is a good thing.... which is what R’s think they are getting via “school choic”. However, MERGING the PUBLIC and PRIVATE sectors into ONE is a BAD idea and it is the center/core of the globalist agenda.





I'm not ashamed to acknowledge my ignorance on something. The GOP are supposed to be a party of commerce and free trade. If charter schools compete with public schools for the best results, it has consequences.

# It forces schools to actually hire the best educators and fire the lazy ones (especially those there by seniority only)

# It would be a free market solution to the VERY SOCIALISTIC way public schools pay teacher. This board is supposed to be right wing and calls multiple policies socialist. What's more socialist than a system that pays people with a less marketable skill set (arts, history) the same as a more marketable one (mathematics,science).

# It gives people who went to rather subpar high schools the chance get into a better one. Multiple charters is the answer.
Posted by TupeloTiger
Tupelo,Ms.[via Bastrop,La.]
Member since Jul 2004
4340 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 7:42 pm to
I owned and managed a Supermarket there and did $52,000 a week until the mill closed and 2 months later I was doing $6,000 a week. I had to close and move for a good job over in Tupelo, Ms. Bastrop was a good town until the mill closed and 2,500 good jobs were gone.
Posted by okietiger13
From Sea to Shining Sea
Member since Jan 2007
10271 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 7:48 pm to
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How much do private schools like Prairie View cost?


From their website. Pretty comparable to what it was when I graduated almost 20 years ago.


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Student Registration and Enrollment Fees:
Registration: $200 per child, $300 per 2 or more
Plus Enrollment Fees: Books, Technology, Activity, Testing & Library
Pre-K/3: $200
Pre-K/4, Kindergarten & Grade 12: $245
Grades 1-11: $260

Tuition spread over 11 months - July through May

Pre-K/3
$323 per month/$3,553 per year
Pre-K/4 & K
$418.50 per month/$4,603 per year
3rd child or more: Half off
1st-6th Grade
$459 per month/$5,049 per year
3rd child or more: Half off
7th-12th Grade
$482.50 per month/$5,307 per year
3rd child or more: Half off

-A 5% discount will be applied for FULL PAYMENT if received before July 1, 2018.
-SMART Tuition will be handling tuition payments for the 2018-19 school year unless payment is made in full.
-A $50.00 registration fee (per family) will be assessed by SMART Tuition for families paying monthly.
-Tuition prices rise after June 1st
Posted by DeafVallyBatnR
Member since Sep 2004
16834 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 7:55 pm to
Morehouse is probably one of the worst systems in the whole state.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50499 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 7:59 pm to
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Are areas like this the reason you all want vouchers? What I dont understand is how vouchers work in small country parishes/ counties. Those areas only have one school system. I can see how it would work in a larger city (Baton Rouge sized or larger).


School systems also can't understand how. The reason they can't understand is because they don't see how a school can survive on just state funding (which is what a voucher program gets you). The reason charter schools with vouchers can work is our schools are massively overfunded. A school that follows a realistic budget can easily survive on just a fraction of what public schools get. They can also get grants.
Posted by dixiechick
Member since Sep 2017
918 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 8:59 pm to
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Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34670 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 9:06 pm to
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Natchitoches and Grambling would be effectively ghost towns without their Universities.


The town of Grambling isn't much to start with.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50499 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 9:07 pm to
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What I am saying is that “school choice” is not a free market alternative to public system because the “choice” model is completely reliant on public dollars. It will never function as a true, free market education system because of this fact. This is where the confusion lies with Rs.



A better system is to stop using public funds for education at all, but a decent compromise is simply allowing the funds to follow each student no matter where they attend. Barring that, allowing public funds to be used for charter schools is a decent first step. It's not the Republicans fault that Democrats want to keep their indoctrination institutes open.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 10:16 pm to
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The town of Grambling isn't much to start with.


It literally only exists because of the university. Closing it would effectively make it even more poor and isolated. To be fair, that's the case with most small towns in Louisiana.
Posted by dixiechick
Member since Sep 2017
918 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 10:25 pm to


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Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 10:37 pm to
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State control over every single child and school when it comes to education. 


You just pointed out the fundamental flaw with liberatarienism. It has many good ideas, but few to no ways to practically implement them.

Ironically, voucher based education will become socialism-lite. The state will orchestrate it so that money intentionally transfers to certain school districts. It's very doubtful you'll find a politician that will let it be a real free market.
Posted by shamrock
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
3621 posts
Posted on 11/24/18 at 10:40 pm to
How about encourage personal responsibility? Pretty libertarian concept
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
8607 posts
Posted on 11/25/18 at 9:50 am to
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ke Charles could survive without McNeese albeit it too would have a weaker economy because of it


Minimal effect if mcneese closed
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