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re: More testing, more testing...!

Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:14 am to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37541 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:14 am to
Oh it absolutely is, but again, knowing you have it isn’t a bad thing. Allowing the government to grow so large that by can shite down lives is the problem.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111546 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:15 am to
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You realize that positive tests do, in fact, mean that someone actually tested positive for coronavirus right?


How many countries are testing asymptomatic people?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37541 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:15 am to
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Louisiana has almost tested 1/4 of its population.


In theory. The say they don’t count duplicate cases, but I’m not so sure I believe them
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37541 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:16 am to
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Let the virus spread as it will to achieve herd immunity. This is how viruses have always been handled,


Devils advocate, the plague wasn’t handled this way
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111546 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:17 am to
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There have been cases of people getting it more than once.


No, there hasn’t.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111546 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:19 am to
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the plague wasn’t handled this way


How was the plague handled differently?
What was the mortality rate of the plague?
Posted by NoMansLand
Member since Jun 2017
1038 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:19 am to
What I learned from this thread:
*0.1% of the population is at risk from this virus. Guess we have a lot of healthy old/fat people in America.
*Either all governors are Democrat or all that are Republican opened up before the Democrats. Either way, Democrat always at fault for economic woes.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37541 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:20 am to
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they open testing to all then the contraction rate will decrease and create less of a need for governmental interference.


You know damn good and well that’s not true. JBE has been harping on total cases for a while now. Not positives
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37541 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:23 am to
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Either way, Democrat always at fault for economic woes.


If the shoe fits
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Member since Feb 2008
18674 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:43 am to
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You realize that positive tests do, in fact, mean that someone actually tested positive for coronavirus right?




There are plenty of false positives out there. Including a set of, I think it was 20, tests sent in not swabbed with fake names and they all came back positive.

Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111546 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:44 am to
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0.1% of the population is at risk from this virus.


That’s not far off.
3M cases, confirmed and presumed. That’s less than 1% of the population that have had it.

Using numbers we know from around the globe, around 4-5% of known cases require hospitalization. So, assuming we’ve captured 40% of the total cases through testing, that’s 0.08% hospitalized. If we round up, that’s .1%.

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Either all governors are Democrat or all that are Republican opened up before the Democrats.


The second half of that statement is mostly true. States with Republican governors have opened earlier and more completely.

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Either way, Democrat always at fault for economic woes.


This is incorrect. Sometimes it’s Republicans listening to Democrats that are responsible for economic woes.
Posted by LSUMIKE70
Seminole Texas
Member since Feb 2020
400 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:44 am to
70 percent historically

much higher in reality

kung flu not so much
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64541 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 7:46 am to
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Between the two of us, I’m guessing only one has an advanced degree in immunology. And, this virus isn’t changing millions of years of human evolution


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Summary Researchers and public health authorities do not know how the immune system reacts to coronavirus or whether people who recover from COVID-19 develop long-term immunity.


Also developing immunity to a new virus is quite literally humans evolving


Admittedly I did word the statement incorrectly. But what HAS been found and documented are instances where someone was symptomatic, became asymptomatic, tested fine, and then tested positive again more than a week later.

There was also a study I found that tested 175 former Covid patients and they could not find the antibodies in 10 of those. Thankfully 10 is a relatively small number but there hasn’t been anything to show that you’re guaranteed to develop the antibodies.
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
10436 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 8:01 am to
Go get tested. One of the First things they ask you is what your symptoms are.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
5020 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 8:38 am to
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Also developing immunity to a new virus is quite literally humans evolving


'evolution' on that time scale isn't evolution, moron

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Admittedly I did word the statement incorrectly. But what HAS been found and documented are instances where someone was symptomatic, became asymptomatic, tested fine, and then tested positive again more than a week later


Anyone on the planet can reacquire if they become immunosuppressed. No immune system, no immune response. This is an outlier, and has no place in a conversation about this virus being different.

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There was also a study I found that tested 175 former Covid patients and they could not find the antibodies in 10 of those. Thankfully 10 is a relatively small number but there hasn’t been anything to show that you’re guaranteed to develop the antibodies.


The antibodies to ANYTHING ALWAYS disappear after the agent is cleared. So do the B cells that produced them. However, the immune system has memory, and can produce those same B cells the first sign of the agent reappearing. Your study was probably from the Huffington Post, they may understand less about immunity than you do.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30729 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 8:46 am to
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The antibodies to ANYTHING ALWAYS disappear after the agent is cleared. So do the B cells that produced them. However, the immune system has memory, and can produce those same B cells the first sign of the agent reappearing.


I guess they don’t teach this in HS biology anymore. I remember a whole month or two on vaccines and antibiotics. It’s one of our contributions to the world. It’s like everyone forgot about it...oh, I forgot....American is bad now.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 8:47 am to
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You realize that positive tests do, in fact, mean that someone actually tested positive for coronavirus right?


No.

NOT when antibody tests (which show recovered cases) are lumped in with active cases.

And NOT where repeated tests on the same person are counted multiple times.

How damn dumb do the think we are?
This post was edited on 7/7/20 at 8:50 am
Posted by ImaObserver
Member since Aug 2019
2290 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 9:03 am to
What a golden opportunity to invade the privacy of the citizenry. The testing emphasis is that "Good Crisis" to be taken advantage of, that permits the nationwide DNA database to be populated with millions of DNA samples linked to specific individuals nationwide. No permission required.
Posted by RoscoeSanCarlos
Member since Oct 2017
1336 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 9:20 am to
The CDC reported a total of 71 Covid-19 deaths the week ending 7/4/2020. Yet, you would think there were bodies littering the streets of America the way the MSM carried on.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
56553 posts
Posted on 7/7/20 at 1:07 pm to
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There are plenty of false positives out there. Including a set of, I think it was 20, tests sent in not swabbed with fake names and they all came back positive.


Can you link this?
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