re: More fishermen, who surely weren't trafficking drugs according to Bunk, are now fish food

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Weird. The Cartels that import drugs are in Mexico and the USA. Venezuela is just a middle man. Trump isnt serious about it. He's virtue signaling.

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We’re still in the first couple chapters of the book. Let’s wait and see how the story concludes before we determine the outcome.

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yes, i took you conflating 2 separate talking points

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These are not US citizens. You don't believe in the Constitution, you believe in globalism.

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You couldn't be further from the truth. I am an isolationist.

I believe completely in the Constitution. It's not about the people being killed. It's the use of the US government to kill them.

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We’re still in the first couple chapters of the book.

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Its a book we've read many times, just a new author but the content doesnt seem to change.

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MAGA was supposed to be different from the status quo, and its the same old bullshite.

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Amen . Thank God Trump is swinging the big dick Teddy Roosevelt style - intimidating and destabilizing Maduro- and has obliterated all the old Ruling Class - Cartel partnerships that have murdered thousands, destroyed the lives of millions and let to a diaspora that has flooded us with Tren de Aragua criminals, drugs and murder.



And all he had to do was blow up a few drug runners instead of risking American lives boarding them like always- *BOOM * frick Maduro. frick dictators and frick the cartels. But you cry all you want, grandpa.

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Not sure what the pearl clutchers thought would be involved

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Not using WOT policies and laws we all agreed were bad, for starters.

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while crushing drug cartels but this is exactly what the American people voted for!

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Our Constitution was written to withstand the swings caused by the uneducated and emotional masses.

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There are two methods of curing the mischiefs of faction: the one, by removing its causes; the other, by controlling its effects.

There are again two methods of removing the causes of faction: the one, by destroying the liberty which is essential to its existence; the other, by giving to every citizen the same opinions, the same passions, and the same interests.

It could never be more truly said than of the first remedy, that it was worse than the disease. Liberty is to faction what air is to fire, an aliment without which it instantly expires. But it could not be less folly to abolish liberty, which is essential to political life, because it nourishes faction, than it would be to wish the annihilation of air, which is essential to animal life, because it imparts to fire its destructive agency.

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If a faction consists of less than a majority, relief is supplied by the republican principle, which enables the majority to defeat its sinister views by regular vote. It may clog the administration, it may convulse the society; but it will be unable to execute and mask its violence under the forms of the Constitution. When a majority is included in a faction, the form of popular government, on the other hand, enables it to sacrifice to its ruling passion or interest both the public good and the rights of other citizens. To secure the public good and private rights against the danger of such a faction, and at the same time to preserve the spirit and the form of popular government, is then the great object to which our inquiries are directed. Let me add that it is the great desideratum by which this form of government can be rescued from the opprobrium under which it has so long labored, and be recommended to the esteem and adoption of mankind.

By what means is this object attainable? Evidently by one of two only. Either the existence of the same passion or interest in a majority at the same time must be prevented, or the majority, having such coexistent passion or interest, must be rendered, by their number and local situation, unable to concert and carry into effect schemes of oppression. If the impulse and the opportunity be suffered to coincide, we well know that neither moral nor religious motives can be relied on as an adequate control. They are not found to be such on the injustice and violence of individuals, and lose their efficacy in proportion to the number combined together, that is, in proportion as their efficacy becomes needful.

From this view of the subject it may be concluded that a pure democracy, by which I mean a society consisting of a small number of citizens, who assemble and administer the government in person, can admit of no cure for the mischiefs of faction. A common passion or interest will, in almost every case, be felt by a majority of the whole; a communication and concert result from the form of government itself; and there is nothing to check the inducements to sacrifice the weaker party or an obnoxious individual. Hence it is that such democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths. Theoretic politicians, who have patronized this species of government, have erroneously supposed that by reducing mankind to a perfect equality in their political rights, they would, at the same time, be perfectly equalized and assimilated in their possessions, their opinions, and their passions.

A republic, by which I mean a government in which the scheme of representation takes place, opens a different prospect, and promises the cure for which we are seeking.

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The influence of factious leaders may kindle a flame within their particular States, but will be unable to spread a general conflagration through the other States. A religious sect may degenerate into a political faction in a part of the Confederacy; but the variety of sects dispersed over the entire face of it must secure the national councils against any danger from that source. A rage for paper money, for an abolition of debts, for an equal division of property, or for any other improper or wicked project, will be less apt to pervade the whole body of the Union than a particular member of it; in the same proportion as such a malady is more likely to taint a particular county or district, than an entire State.

In the extent and proper structure of the Union, therefore, we behold a republican remedy for the diseases most incident to republican government. And according to the degree of pleasure and pride we feel in being republicans, ought to be our zeal in cherishing the spirit and supporting the character of Federalists.

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And all he had to do was blow up a few drug runners instead of risking American lives boarding them like always- *BOOM * frick Maduro. frick dictators and frick the cartels. But you cry all you want, grandpa.

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EVERYONE should object to one man unilaterally ordering executions based on information from the deep state.

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More speculation and hypotheticals.

I’m not going to say that elements of the “deep state” don’t exist anymore, but based on everything we know, they are less prevalent than in prior administrations.

Like I already said above, if it were put to vote, half of congress and any number of judges would object to spite Trump, and that fentanyl/drugs would be coming into this country by the boat load.

We know this because it’s exactly how immigration has played out.

You can’t save Roger, J. But I do appreciate your humanity in throwing him a logically consistent bone.Its oddly heartwarming, lol.