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re: Mom blames COVID vaccines after her 17-year-old athlete son and husband were hospitalized

Posted on 6/17/21 at 10:45 am to
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73278 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 10:45 am to
Why do you refuse to answer?
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 6/17/21 at 10:50 am to
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Why do you refuse to answer?



I love when people like you pretend that you don't have a long history of posts on particular topics and you're too chicken shite to stand by your beliefs so yo play this unending game. The only question is if you're are actually dumb enough to believe the stuff you post or if you know it's nonsense and are just having fun.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
DFW
Member since Nov 2012
46505 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 10:52 am to
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Do you believe the mom's claim that the vaccine caused clots in her son within 24 hours?


In general, my baseline assumption is that any personal anecdote reported in a public medium regarding a controversial topic is bullshite until they provide evidence to the contrary.
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 10:53 am
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35362 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:03 am to
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I agree that it sounds more genetic than anything. You mean to tell me that the dad and son both got different vaccines, neither of which was J&J (you know, the one that was suspected of rare blood clots) and both of them managed to develop blood clots?
Agree. The kid said that the swelling caused the blood clots, so the vaccine would be an indirect cause at best. Unfortunately the pediatrician thought that the swelling was just a pulled neck muscle which delayed treatment which could have prevented the clots.

Note to parents of 6'8" 17 year olds: go to a regular doctor.

They don't give any dates on the father, so it is hard to draw a line connecting the clots to the vaccine. Likewise, the number of clots and concentration seem to indicate he had a clot somewhere else that broke up and traveled to the lung.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
19261 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:05 am to
The son had been infected previously, unbeknownst to the parents. And she said that they had been pressured to get him vaccinated as he played travel basketball & several tournaments were in states mandating out of state players be vaccinated.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73278 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:08 am to
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love when people like you pretend that you don't have a long history of posts


Then it should be easy to answer the question

Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123781 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:16 am to
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You have no way of knowing that.
If I didn't, I wouldn't have posted it.

The only assumption here is the noted thrombotic events being definitively secondary to the vaccine. We don't know that with 100% certainty. But if the press accounts are accurate, 2° thrombosis seems like a reasonable conclusion.

So going with that assumption, and understanding systemic s-protein as the culprit, the presence of diffuse s-protein is logarithmically lower following vaccination than during infection.

It is what it is.
This post was edited on 6/17/21 at 11:19 am
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
17819 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:24 am to
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In general, my baseline assumption is that any personal anecdote reported in a public medium regarding a controversial topic is bullshite until they provide evidence to the contrary.

Too bad the CDC and NIH don't operate with this level of healthy skepticism.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21456 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 11:37 am to
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Additionally, do you think even if that actually were true it was anything other than a very extreme outlier?


The standard has already been set. Teens and children dying from Covid are also an extreme outlier, yet here we are watching medical experts and authorities pushing the vaccines on teens and children.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
123781 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 12:28 pm to
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Teens and children dying from Covid are also an extreme outlier
EXACTLY!
That is why vaccinating kids under any "emergency use" plan is ridiculous.
Posted by Sev09
Nantucket
Member since Feb 2011
15555 posts
Posted on 6/17/21 at 3:30 pm to
I wonder if there’s Kim’s kind of dna trait that is more susceptible to these clots that we can figure out.
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