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re: Missle that hit Poland was fired by Ukraine

Posted on 11/16/22 at 9:34 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 9:34 am to
The issue I have with the propaganda, its all hit and run.

They'll never ever backtrack and repair damage they've done.
Posted by HVAU
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 9:39 am to
According to Ukrainian Deputy Head of the President’s Office 90+ missiles were fired during the time being discussed. 70 were intercepted but air defense.

I appreciate the downvotes for providing information.

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Posted by HVAU
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 9:40 am to
quote:

The issue I have with the propaganda, its all hit and run. They'll never ever backtrack and repair damage they've done.


But they already are. You can look on any credible news source this morning and see l, top of page in most cases, the corrected information.
Posted by HVAU
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 9:54 am to

Front page of CNN: the deadly strike in Poland was likely fired by Ukraine defense

MSNBC middle of front page: Ukraine accidentally fired missile in deadly strike in Poland, U.S. officials believe

Reddit Live Thread: covered multiple times

Fox News: Don’t see in the top ten of front page

ABC News top of page: Kremlin notes ‘far more professional reaction’ from US

CBS news first story: ‘No indication’ Russia attacked Poland after blast near Ukraine

OANN: not on front page










Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 9:55 am to
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I am trying to understand your position. Obviously, he meant Ukraine. Are you arguing that Ukraine should not attempt to defensively shoot down an incoming offensive missile, which is threatening its citizens and cities, because the busted up pieces might accidentally land across the border? Are you arguing that damage done by those busted up pieces is not ultimately the responsibility of the party who fired the offensive missile?


Aren’t you a lawyer? Would the law in any state exonerate a person for killing an unrelated party, even if trying to defend themselves?

Two different actions were taken, and the responsibility of those actions must be analyzed independently.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 9:56 am to
Shocked. State actor is acting as agent provocateur...
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 9:57 am to
Ukrainian propaganda is almost as bad as Russia.
Posted by Giantkiller
the internet.
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 9:59 am to
We just need another election to fill our news programs air. Because it's pretty clear nobody gave a flying frick about Ukraine/Russia when there was literally ANYTHING else to talk about.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260171 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:00 am to
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But they already are. You can look on any credible news source this morning


I'm looking on the MSN page I always open at home and work, the only Ukraine story in the top stories is a feel good made up story about a sniper shooting a Russian, and a story about Putin that is nefarious.

Not a word correcting the original story from the source that posted it yesterday.

Its a NATO vs Russian war, and we hear literally just one side.

Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26119 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:03 am to
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Two different actions were taken, and the responsibility of those actions must be analyzed independently.



It’s collateral damage from an intercepted missile. There will never be any fault placed on Ukraine for the pieces landing in Poland. Russia will still bear the popular blame in Poland, seeing as none of it would ever have happened without Russia’s actions.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:04 am to
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State actor is acting as agent provocateur...

No one on the planet is alleging that Ukraine fired a missile into Poland to provoke anything. Literally no one beyond people on this site came to that conclusion.

So where is that coming from?
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 10:05 am
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:10 am to
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Not saying it should have been “war time” but surely you can see the difference between an invading country firing missiles into another country, missing a target, striking a separate country versus a country defending itself and missing a target while shooting defensive missiles.


The problem is that shite like this has the potential to escalate into WW3 and the fricking head of state of Ukraine, rather than taking a cautious approach not to drag the world into thermonuclear exchange, overtly stated that it was Russian and used it as an opportunity to attempt to trigger an article 5 response from NATO.
Posted by NCIS_76
Member since Jan 2021
5246 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:10 am to
Zelensky made this comment yesterday

“Hitting NATO territory with missiles. … This is a Russian missile attack on collective security! This is a really significant escalation. Action is needed,” Zelensky said in a video address Tuesday.
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:11 am to
quote:


So where is that coming from?

Ukraine is the bravest, kindest, warmest...
This post was edited on 11/16/22 at 10:12 am
Posted by HVAU
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:11 am to
So find another news site. I documented pretty well what can be found on the major news outlet websites. Maybe you missed that.
Posted by Bama Bird
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:11 am to
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Ukrainian propaganda is almost as bad as Russia.



And they went way too far yesterday. Ukraine PM literally calling for nuclear war. The worst part is the OT's immediate response was "hell yes" but it's now "shite happens". These types of people will ruin humanity
Posted by HVAU
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Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:13 am to
And Biden, as well as other NATO heads rebuffed him.

“There is preliminary information that contests that…It is unlikely in the lines of the trajectory that it was fired from Russia, but we’ll see.”

Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18153 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:14 am to
And Biden sends the corrupt MRers another $40 BILLION because Russia is going to now invade Poland.
Poland needs to attack with Russia and eliminate these corrupt SOBs in Ukraine.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:15 am to
quote:

And they went way too far yesterday. Ukraine PM literally calling for nuclear war. The worst part is the OT's immediate response was "hell yes" but it's now "shite happens". These types of people will ruin humanity


Hey, man. It's just what we have to do to get at Putin for hacking our democracy!!!
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134845 posts
Posted on 11/16/22 at 10:16 am to
quote:

And Biden sends the corrupt MRers another $40 BILLION because Russia is going to now invade Poland.
Poland needs to attack with Russia and eliminate these corrupt SOBs in Ukraine.

All the "Ukraine at all costs" retards say there's literally zero evidence of corruption in Ukraine
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