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re: Mississippi wins right to enforce religious exemptions law
Posted on 6/22/17 at 5:03 pm to anc
Posted on 6/22/17 at 5:03 pm to anc
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Pretty important case nationally. 5th Circuit overturns lower court. We heading to the Supreme Court, baby!
Did you even read the article?
How is this particular case headed to the Supreme Court? They didn't rule on the merits on the case, they ruled the ruled the plaintiffs bringing the lawsuit lacked standing before the court.
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Posted on 6/22/17 at 5:10 pm to Machine
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This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 5:14 pm
Posted on 6/22/17 at 5:11 pm to anc
Can we just fast forward to the logical conclusion where the government has no involvement with marriage whatsoever?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 5:22 pm to anc
How does this ruling affect someone that believes in Sharia?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 5:27 pm to MastrShake
quote:Thank you. Do you now not see just how lost you are?
you think thats what this is about? you think that gay people want to get married in a place that calls them an abomination?
Posted on 6/22/17 at 6:41 pm to MastrShake
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also, we don't make laws in this country based on religious beliefs,
Every country that has ever been makes all of its laws based on a worldview, I.e., religion. Just depends on which religion.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 6:59 pm to MastrShake
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you think thats what this is about? you think that gay people want to get married in a place that calls them an abomination?
Absolutely. Without a doubt. That would be the ultimate revenge for them.
Do you believe the softball players in Oregon sued that bakery simply because they really, really wanted that Particular cake? Come on!
Posted on 6/22/17 at 7:16 pm to MastrShake
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also, we don't make laws in this country based on religious beliefs, and if anyone can give an explanation for why "marriage is the union of one man and one woman" that doesn't come down to "because the bible says so", then Id be fascinated to hear it.
Let me guess????
Posted on 6/22/17 at 7:22 pm to slackster
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The law covers exclusions for premarital sex as well, but I doubt we'll see much done under that provision.
Or divorcees for that matter
Don't get me wrong, I support the right of private businesses to refuse service to anyone for any reason and let the free market sort it out. I just find the blatant hypocrisy amusing.
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 6/22/17 at 7:30 pm to slackster
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If you don't want to serve a particular race, business may or may not suffer as a result. Let the market decide
Yep
A business that refuses service to gay people will go just fine in Mississippi. One that did so in Seattle would likely quickly fold due to a lack of business.
And that's how it should be. The problem is that many who support such a model suddenly get offended when public opinion ruins businesses that espouse their beliefs.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 8:25 pm to MrLarson
quote:im not saying to hurt anyone, but yes, if i was all powerful for one day i would absolutely erase religion from the world. its stone age superstition and has been the root cause for countless acts of murder, violence, and oppression, around the world, every minute of every day, for thousands of years.
Such peaceful people
think of islamic terrorism, think of the crusades, think of the death squad run by a priest in columbia, or the death squad run by catholics in argentina, or the death squad in kenya, or the evangelicals across africa doing things like deciding gay people should get the death penalty.
the Philippines have 80 million Catholics. that's 30 million more than Italy. that entire country is a death squad ever since their president urged civilians to execute people who use or sell drugs. what that might mean is apparently up to you, and theres no evidence necessary.
i can do this all day.
this is religion, and this is pure unfiltered human evil.
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 8:28 pm
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:08 pm to FooManChoo
quote:im honestly not sure how to even respond to this. but very obviously, any reasonable definition of marriage has to be based on consent.
Consent is necessary based on your definition of marriage. My point is that if there is no objective basis for it, you can define marriage any way you want, including lacking consent.
i cant just declare that im now married to kate upton and then suddenly im legally married to kate upton.
in that one particular example i would be for a law like that, but, and again, i cant believe i even have to say this, other than that, all marriages obviously have to be based on consent.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:09 pm to anc
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the Mississippi bill seeks to protect by law the belief that marriage is the union of one man and one woman and prevents government intervention when churches or businesses act "based upon or in a manner consistent with a sincerely held religious belief or moral conviction."
You will lose, again. Then again, then again, then again.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:11 pm to MastrShake
quote:I'm sorry you are so naive to think that "religion" is to blame for such atrocities. Not all religions are equal. Religion is a subset of ideology or worldview and those things come in many shapes and sizes and lead people to act in various ways. Millions have been murdered in the name of Communism. Hitler got inspiration from the theory of evolution to weed out the "unfit" Jews to create a better and more pure human race.
this is religion, and this is pure unfiltered human evil.
You can't judge all religion because there are many religions that teach peace, tolerance (not necessarily acceptance), goodness, and kindness towards others. You have to go to the root of the faith to determine whether or not that expression of faith is good or bad. Those who murder in the name of Christ are actually contradicting the faith they claim to hold to.
Much good has come from religion. Many Christians over the centuries have opened up schools, shelters, hospitals, and orphanages to care for those who are hurt, or needy. Those acts are consistent with the tenants of the Christian faith while murder is not.
Would killing in the name of science make science evil? Would killing in the name of nature make nature evil? Would killing in the name of charity make charity evil? Of course not. The killers are what is wrong, and the same can be said for religion generally. You have to judge each religion by what they teach, not by what their supposed followers do.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:12 pm to MastrShake
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because marriage predates Christianity by several thousand years. you don't own it, you're not in charge of it, its not up to you to decide who qualifies
Well, why do libtards feel the need to inject government into healthcare? And everything else for that matter? It's not up to libturds or the government to force healthcare or healthcare mandates for those without at the expense of those who actually work and want to decide on their own whether or not they want healthcare.
It's also not up to the libturds or the government to mandate that a bakery or church bake a cake for, or marry queers.
YOU(libtards or government) do not "own it".
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:14 pm to 31TIGERS
quote:there we go. well done. nice strong finish just to erase any doubt that youre a bigot.
...mandate that a bakery or church bake a cake for, or marry queers.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:17 pm to MastrShake
You are a bigot.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:20 pm to MastrShake
quote:That is your opinion but that is contradicted by thousands of years of evidence to the contrary. Many people have been married (legally or otherwise) in cultures and nations throughout the world where one or more of the parties did not consent but were forced into it. Your definition of marriage apparently has been borrowed from the Christian view of it where two people come together to become one, as helpers to one another. I agree with that, but I believe I have an objective basis for it that. Your standard/definition is arbitrary.
im honestly not sure how to even respond to this. but very obviously, any reasonable definition of marriage has to be based on consent.
i cant just declare that im now married to kate upton and then suddenly im legally married to kate upton.
in that one particular example i would be for a law like that, but, and again, i cant believe i even have to say this, other than that, all marriages obviously have to be based on consent.
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:22 pm to 31TIGERS
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It's also not up to the libturds or the government to mandate that a bakery or church bake a cake for, or marry queers.
Perfect
Posted on 6/22/17 at 9:30 pm to MastrShake
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there we go. well done. nice strong finish just to erase any doubt that youre a bigot.
Call it whatever you want, fruitcake. If you want to be a queer that's on you! Have at it. That is COMPLETELY your business.
Just don't push your sick, mentally deranged agenda on normal functioning people. For such a miniscule percentage of the population you sure do love to whine like little bitches of you don't get your way.
None of this was ever an issue until that race baiting, community organizing, turd in a punch bowl started stinking up the White House a little over 8 years ago. Point being is that you fruitcakes have been played and lead by your noses and now you're too stupid to realize you were made fools of.
Taste the rainbow.
This post was edited on 6/22/17 at 9:31 pm
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