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Mississippi trying to eliminate state income tax

Posted on 3/25/21 at 6:59 am
Posted by Kreg Jennings
Parts Unknown
Member since Aug 2007
3294 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 6:59 am
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While I’m not sure they’ll get this across the finish line this year or not, it will come to be sooner rather than later.

Combine that with TX having eliminated their state income tax a long while back, and LA needs to put it in gear for reasons of being competitive for Biz & Industry. IE, jobs.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 7:01 am to
It could be a trap...….you can expect the state to make more money on sales type taxes so expect your gas prices to go WAY up and expect sales tax increases.....MS baws will lose in the end.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32890 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 7:02 am to
Property taxes will go up by a lot
Posted by oilattorney4lsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2009
2068 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 7:06 am to
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Property taxes will go up by a lot


Why would property taxes go way up? Do you understand the difference between state and local revenues? Obviously not.
Posted by BayBengal9
Bay St. Louis, MS
Member since Nov 2019
4171 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 7:16 am to
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Why would property taxes go way up? Do you understand the difference between state and local revenues? Obviously not.


Not sure why this was downvoted... All of our property taxes go to the county or municipality government... that's why it's so much cheaper when you live in an unincorporated area.

I'm fine with an increase in sales tax to make up for eliminating the income tax. It's the right thing to do regardless of how I may be personally financially affected by it.
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
6505 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 7:58 am to
LA was the only state to lose jobs during Trump's presidency. Good job, jbe voters.

At least we lag behind MS in the Fatfrick Index. You have to take the little victories when your voters are this dumb.
Posted by RolltidePA
North Carolina
Member since Dec 2010
3481 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 8:15 am to
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It could be a trap...….you can expect the state to make more money on sales type taxes so expect your gas prices to go WAY up and expect sales tax increases.....MS baws will lose in the end.




Consumption taxes should be favored over income taxes (a.k.a. government theft) at all junctures. There is choice in consumption taxes and ways to mindfully reduce your tax burden instead of government demanding a portion of your income.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21260 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 8:20 am to
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All of our property taxes go to the county or municipality government... that's why it's so much cheaper when you live in an unincorporated area.

I'm fine with an increase in sales tax to make up for eliminating the income tax. It's the right thing to do regardless of how I may be personally financially affected by it.


You honestly don't need to offset with an increase in state sales taxes. Just follow more the TX model of local government funding more things, rather than the Louisiana model where all the local politicians whore themselves out to Baton Rouge for funding.

It might mean a bit more increase in property taxes, but at least if that remains local, you can attend local school board and city/county council meetings, and you would visually see the fruits of that tax revenue in your local communities.

When Bobby Jindal wanted a "look at me" skin on the wall for his eventual failed Presidential run, he through together a plan to eliminate the LA State Income tax by lazily offsetting with a significant increase in state sales taxes. There was no real fiscal model change, so it was still going to be the same result. The State Government taking in the revenues so that they can buy the votes of communities and their local leaders with funding for schools, city halls, ballparks, community centers, police force, etc.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29793 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 8:21 am to
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could be a trap...….you can expect the state to make more money on sales type taxes so expect your gas prices to go WAY up and expect sales tax increases.....MS baws will lose in the end.


Most fair system. Then everyone pays for use of resources, not just working people.
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
21260 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 8:26 am to
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sales type taxes so expect your gas prices to go WAY up


Let's be honest. I know conservatives/libertarians are more anti-new/higher taxes, and as a result the attempt during multiple past legislative sessions to increase the gasoline tax in Louisiana has been killed each time.

But with the more fuel efficient vehicles coupled with increased material and labor costs, the current gasoline tax in Louisiana cannot come close to keeping up with the need for road repairs/construction.

That's probably one tax that does need to be increased, and at the end of the day, if 10 years ago you were driving say...a GMC Sierra that was getting only 15 miles to the gallon and now driving the same model but newer, getting 19-20 a gallon, you're actually paying less in state taxes at the pump right now than a decade ago.
This post was edited on 3/25/21 at 8:27 am
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
32253 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 8:33 am to
I think that ship has sailed for this year anyway. But, I haven't followed what they are doing as closely as I normally do.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45769 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 8:49 am to
Sales tax in Mississippi: 7%

Sales tax in Texas: 6.25%

Gas avg in Mississippi, today: $2.607

Gas avg in Texas, today: $2.626

Average state income tax rate Mississippi: 3% to 5%

Average state income tax in Texas: 0%

Average property tax in Mississippi: 0.81% on median value of $119,000

Average property tax in Texas: 1.8% on median value of $172,500

Average household income in Mississippi: $65,641

Average household income in Texas: $98,362.04

Corporate tax rates? Mississippi: 3% to 5%. In Texas, businesses with $1.18 million to $10 million in annual receipts pay a franchise tax of 0.575%. Businesses with receipts less than $1.18 million pay no franchise tax. The maximum franchise tax in Texas is 1%.

Doesn't take a big brain to figure out they'll have to raise property taxes. Mississippi makes an average of $2625.64 per household in state income tax. Eliminate that and raise property tax rates 1% and will make up an avg of $1,190 of that per household. Get tax assessments up by telling the assessors to track national trends and then home prices rise and taxes follow.

If Mississippi needs reform, it's in its business tax policy. It is anti-business. Need to lower those business taxes like Texas and make it on receipts. Then, a business is planning to succeed instead of planning to not show a profit.



Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25478 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 9:19 am to
But it also spreads taxes across everyone in the state instead of just taxing people with jobs
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32890 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 9:36 am to
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Why would property taxes go way up? Do you understand the difference between state and local revenues? Obviously not.

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Posted by mtb010
San Antonio
Member since Sep 2009
4384 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 10:46 am to
Yes, we don't have a state income tax here in Texas but try owning a little bit of land. I have 5 acres in Texas and pay almost 800 dollars a year per acre in property taxes.
Posted by jclem11
Neoliberal Shill
Member since Nov 2011
7785 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 10:49 am to
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Consumption taxes should be favored over income taxes (a.k.a. government theft) at all junctures. There is choice in consumption taxes and ways to mindfully reduce your tax burden instead of government demanding a portion of your income.


So frick the poors right?

Sales taxes are the most regressive form of taxation; albeit much easier to administer and collect and enforce by the governing entity.
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 10:53 am to
Louisiana: "We're first at being last!"
Posted by Abraham H Parnassis
Member since Jul 2020
2552 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 10:55 am to
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So frick the poors right?

Do EBT kingz-n-queenz pay tax on groceries?

Many times, the answer is no. So the food is free (thanks to me) and they aren't paying taxes on it anyway (also thanks to me).

In no other country are people expected to be given more for doing less, so my heart does not bleed for them.
Posted by BAMBAM
Biloxi, MS
Member since Mar 2008
2364 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 10:57 am to
It’s worst than that it’s the lottery money. They made a shite ton last year on that lottery. My number may be wrong by it was around 90M profit.

So I I may be wrong and that money may be appropriated for something else. But that’s a pretty good chunk of cash injection.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 3/25/21 at 10:59 am to
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It could be a trap...….you can expect the state to make more money on sales type taxes so expect your gas prices to go WAY up and expect sales tax increases.....MS baws will lose in the end.



My favorite part of your post was how confident you were. Dumb people typically are

Tennessee (No state income tax) vs Mississippi:









This post was edited on 3/25/21 at 11:04 am
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