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re: Minnesota Shooter: Let's Wait for the Facts

Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:27 pm to
Posted by Klark Kent
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:27 pm to
yep. i know you don’t.

(part of the reason I want more details; you jumping on the conclusion now doesn’t exactly sell me on it lol)
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:27 pm to
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Seems alot more personal than political doesn’t it?

He's an Evangelical Christian who targeted Democrats, abortion providers, and abortion proponents. How does that seem more personal than political?
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:27 pm to


This explanation makes a lot of sense. Ties the connections to Africa and Somalis in Minnesota, his past, and his work as a "coach" of sorts in Minnesota. He was grooming these Somali kids for future terrorist attacks here in the states. Connects the dots of a lot of nefarious activities in that state and who is really running the show. It's very much worth the watch.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:28 pm to
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and this is the type of disingenuous dogshit that keeps people from being able to take you seriously.

Understand the context/satire before you melt
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:31 pm to
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Connects the dots of a lot of nefarious activities in that state and who is really running the show. It's very much worth the watch.


Thanks for posting. Does Webb have a theory about why Boelter targeted these two Democrats in particular?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:31 pm to
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He was grooming these Somali kids for future terrorist attacks here in the states.

Evangelical Christian attacks ?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:31 pm to
your unrelenting arrogance, definitive statements, and desperate need to be right will never allow to take a post of yours as satire.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:33 pm to
No, you don’t get to use then deny the same characteristics whenever it suits you, I know it’s your schtick but it’s an underhanded tactic and proof that the person doing it is dishonest which is why everyone views you the way they do.
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 5:34 pm
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:34 pm to
eh, just read SFP's post below. It'll save you time on Webb's theory.
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 5:41 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59287 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:34 pm to
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Your side consistently has very violent rhetoric, which has led to extreme violence, so blame them for this escalation


Which side are you claiming is mine? How did you draw that conclusion?

You’re just posting the same meaningless, emotional drivel that does nothing to further the discussion. No one finds these baseless and pointless accusations interesting.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:35 pm to
He exhibits every sign of a dishonest and manipulative person 100% of the time. Thats just what he is.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:35 pm to
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Does Webb have a theory about why Boelter targeted these two Democrats in particular?

It's a near 2-hour long video of rambling. I'm having Gemini summarize it for us.

quote:

This video, titled "Vance Boelter - Worst Father Figure You Could Ever Have," is a livestream by George Webb from June 15, 2025. In it, Webb discusses the concept of an "FBI father" and heavily criticizes Vance Boelter, whom he labels as the "worst FBI father."

Webb alleges that Boelter, with a background in mercenary work, has been acting as a "father figure" in black churches to recruit and radicalize youth. He draws a parallel between this and the radicalization of Somali youth in Minnesota, which he claims to have witnessed in 2017. Webb asserts that this is part of a larger scheme by individuals like Boelter and Keith Ellison to create "murder and mayhem," and that the FBI is involved in "making crime" to justify their budgets.

Throughout the video, Webb touches on various conspiracy theories, including the CIA's role in radicalizing groups like BLM and Antifa, the origins of the COVID-19 pandemic, and a suspicious cancer vaccine. He also discusses the murder of Bob Lee and the potential for nuclear terrorism.

Webb contrasts these negative influences with a call for positive mentorship and good father figures who can guide young people towards constructive paths and away from violence. He concludes by emphasizing the importance of positive parenting for a better future. The video has 3,875 views and 439 likes.


I got more detailed with my follow up

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What specific terrorism is discussed in this video. Please describe the ideology and purported goals discussed as well as the methods


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Based on the video, George Webb discusses a specific type of terrorism that he labels "FBI make crime" or "false flag make crime" [01:18:14]. The core of this conspiracy theory is the idea that factions within the FBI and other intelligence agencies are not preventing terrorism but actively creating it to justify their budgets and advance a political agenda.

Here is a breakdown of the ideology, goals, and methods as described by Webb in the video:

Ideology and Purported Goals:

Creating Justification for Budgets: The primary goal of this "made" crime is to justify anti-terrorism budgets and the continued operation of these agencies [09:09].

Radicalizing Vulnerable Youth: Webb claims the operation specifically targets and radicalizes young, impressionable individuals, with a focus on Somali and Black youth. The ideology exploits their backgrounds and experiences with violence to instill a desire for revenge [41:07].

Generating Social Unrest: The ultimate aim is to create social unrest, "murder and mayhem" [08:19], and even an "uprising" [05:34]. Webb connects this to broader political agendas involving groups like Antifa and the Muslim Brotherhood [07:40].

Political Motivation: A murder is described as "politically motivated," suggesting a larger political scheme is at play [01:54:56].

Methods of Radicalization and Operation:

Infiltration: Webb alleges that individuals like Vance and Mark Boelter, whom he identifies as FBI agents, infiltrate communities by becoming youth coaches and leaders in Black churches to recruit children [06:11, 09:42].

Psychological Manipulation:

The "Father Figure" Role: Vance Boelter is accused of using the guise of a "father figure" to gain trust and influence young people [02:56].
Indoctrination: Recruits are shown "atrocity pictures" of alleged actions by American soldiers against Muslims to incite hatred and a desire for violence [11:14].

Criminal Grooming:

The youth are allegedly groomed for a life of crime, starting with drug running and escalating to human trafficking, including "white slavery" and holding young girls in cages [06:39, 13:24].

Some individuals are even given bomb-making lessons [28:44].

Use of Informants and Entrapment: Webb repeatedly cites the case of Muhammad Muhammad in Portland, Oregon, as an example of FBI entrapment. He claims three FBI informants were introduced into Muhammad's life to radicalize him and facilitate a bombing plot [10:00, 32:23].

Use of Technology: The use of Blackberry devices for communication within these alleged radical networks is mentioned, with Keith Ellison being described as a "Blackberry carrier" [08:09].
Sleeper Cells: The video also briefly touches on the concept of "sleeper cells" as part of this operation [05:06].

Webb's narrative weaves these elements together to portray a sinister conspiracy where government agencies are not fighting terrorism but are, in fact, the architects of it.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:36 pm to
Well that certainly sums it up, yes.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9047 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:44 pm to
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I'm having Gemini summarize it for us.


Thanks SFP. Much appreciated. At least it's a theory that could account for all the data, unlike the "Shot them because they voted against Democrats" nonsense peddaled on here...which I thought was a possibility until I committed the heresy of looking up how Senator Hoffman voted.

I love how you got a downvote for doing us the favor of summarizing.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467158 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:46 pm to
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your unrelenting arrogance,

I think you're confusing "doing the work" with arrogance.

Am I confident in my stance? Sure, because I did the work, showed my work, and am still waiting on a valid rebuttal (It's been hours).

Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9047 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:46 pm to
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Well that certainly sums it up, yes.


Was it a fair summary?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467158 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:47 pm to
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No, you don’t get to use then deny the same characteristics whenever it suits you

I am not doing this

I've posted ample evidence that he's an Evangelical Christian who is anti-abortion and anti-trans, without even getting into the reports about his lists.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
4124 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:48 pm to
Yes very much so. Creepily so really. Saves everyone a bunch of time too. Even includes time stamps. Very effective.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73331 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:49 pm to
no. there’s no confusion on my end.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9047 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:50 pm to
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Yes very much so. Creepily so really. Saves everyone a bunch of time too. Even includes time stamps. Very effective.


Thanks. I'm with you on the creepy part. I REALLY worry about all the unknowns with AI.
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