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re: Minnesota Shooter: Let's Wait for the Facts

Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:16 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:16 pm to
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You really think lying about it

Posted by Madking
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:18 pm to
Only response you’re left with so not surprised
Posted by Richleau
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:18 pm to
The glue that ties your flimsy argument is equally as tenuous. At least admit that. That's why I stated, we both don't know as of yet. You can think he's a rogue actor if you'd like. I think there's far too much in his background that make no sense than to lay that claim. His multiple jobs, his USAID affiliations, his ties and his wife's ties to Waltz, the family security business, his workings at 7/11 and a morgue, the massive property and house he and his wife had. The bug out kit ready and waiting his wife and relatives were caught with and his whereabouts still being unknown suggest this is not a fly by night rogue operation. Was he a Christian? sure, but that doesn't account for all the outliers. People compartmentalize and justify all sorts of actions regardless of faith. Hell look at Biden being a Catholic and yet still supporting abortion rights. So tell me, why is Minnesota the state for Somalis? Goodwill? Reminds me of the Biden regime sending all the Haitians to small towns in Ohio.
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 6:21 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:20 pm to
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You're LITERALLY simping for the dishonest left on this.
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How?
That's a question you'd have to ask yourself.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:21 pm to
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The glue that ties your flimsy argument is equally as tenuous.

My primary argument is that he's not a Leftist

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his USAID affiliations,

What?

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At first, I assumed Vance Boelter was just another grifter in the NGO/activist space. He built a fake resume, floated around volunteer gigs, and set up shell organizations for clout. His "Red Lion Group" has no real paper trail. His side business in "security services" looks like a cash grab.


That's from DataRepublican LINK

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the family security business,

See Data Republican's tweet. That security business really didn't exist other than on paper.

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The bug out kit ready and waiting his wife and relatives were caught with

That implies his wife was an accomplice. That's not an entirely shocking development.

Posted by Madking
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:21 pm to
I offered the possibility that it’s more personal than political since the guy and his wife were intimately involved with the Dems in Minnesota. He dismissed that possibility because it doesn’t fit his idiotically based position which shows he’s wishcasting more than anything else.
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 6:23 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:23 pm to
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That's a question you'd have to ask yourself.

I don't have to, because I already know the answer.

Oh, his manifesto targeted DEMs and abortion providers

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The “manifesto” of alleged Minnesota political assassin Vance Boelter lists a chilling who’s who of Minnesota lawmakers and abortion providers he may have had in his crosshairs.

Everyone from Sen. Amy Klobuchar to Rep. Ilhan Omar and Gov. Tim Walz were named in the document, which was discovered piecemeal in several locations, the Minnesota Star Tribune reported.


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Sources told the Star Tribune that Klobuchar was listed, as well as members of the Minnesota Democratic-Farmer-Labor Party and an unknown number of abortion providers in the state. Smith, Morrison and Omar all confirmed they were among the names in the document.


Reality is collapsing the echo chamber false narrative that he's a Leftist and the truth that I keep providing should be clearing things up for people.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:24 pm to
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He dismissed that possibility because it doesn’t fit his idiotically based position

Or, to be more accurate, because he killed one person he had no ties to, and had a bunch of other Democrats and abortion providers on his list, who he also had no personal ties to.

My position is that he's not a leftist. Only targeting DEMs is a good indicator that I'm right.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:24 pm to
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Well his posts about “the facts” encapsulate what he’s doing. Dismissing any fact contrary to his ideology while spinning and lying about the facts he does recognize.
I'm less concerned about that than I am with whom his posts duplicitously align
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:25 pm to
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I am with whom his posts duplicitously align

They're non-partisan and align only with a path towards the truth.

As we keep going, arguing he was a leftist distances a person from the truth.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:26 pm to
Again you dismiss facts that don’t align. I didn’t make any definitive argument based on right or left, you refuse to accept things that don’t fit a narrative absent of factual evidence. You’re wrong based on your approach.
Posted by texag7
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:26 pm to
Between this board and the OT, SFP has posted like 400 times today about this.

When Trump got shot I remember him posting like twice.

It is super important to him personally this guy is not branded as a liberal.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:26 pm to
It's just strange to not at least entertain another viewpoint. That alone really makes the conversation a lot less engaging. I mean, NGOs were clearly skimming, he was a part of an NGO in Africa and somehow the house they had and the land is just...a thing? Parking 50k in a safety security box is just a thing people do? His wife being an accomplice is just...a thing as well? Minnesota having so many Somalis in one district they elect a radical rep to congress and that's just a thing. The attorney general having ties to the Muslim Brotherhood is just a thing. It's all so tiresome..
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:26 pm to
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That's a question you'd have to ask yourself.
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I don't have to
Wow!
That is an interesting response.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:27 pm to
Well that’s just his schtick. Pretends to be objective while “objectively” agreeing with radical leftist 99% of the time.
Posted by Madking
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:28 pm to
Correct, it’s his intent that discredits him.
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 6:28 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:28 pm to
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They're non-partisan
Negative. Sorry. You need to review WTF you are writing. If the posts were nonpartisan, we'd not be having this discussion.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:28 pm to
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. I mean, NGOs were clearly skimming, he was a part of an NGO in Africa and somehow the house they had and the land is just...a thing?

Again, DataRepublican already looked into this

Where is legit reporting he was skimming anything, or had any actual money coming in? DR states the opposite (and I provided the link)

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Minnesota having so many Somalis in one district they elect a radical rep to congress and that's just a thing.

This is what you call dot connecting

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The attorney general having ties to the Muslim Brotherhood

THAT is something, but you can't connect THAT to this situation at all.

Especially considering Keith Ellison was on the hit list
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:29 pm to
You can’t connect dots if you skip half of them
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 6/15/25 at 6:29 pm to
Outside of his love for Texas Chainsaw, which I too love, it's extremely weird. Like beyond weird. Dude clearly knows a lot about tech as well and seems to live here. Steering conversations. Makes you wonder. Putting it at the altar of Christianity and not even engaging about Muslims in Minnesota and the potential this guy was grooming/setting up future "reasons" for the FBI to capture more of the purse and tighten their grip? I mean, Webb lays it out pretty thick and...crickets.

Heck, if you think it's all about Christianity, wouldn't it make sense he would engage in corrupting youthful muslim minds with murderous backgrounds in their home country to steer them to obvious illegal action only to swoop in, arrest them, entrap them and increase the purse?
This post was edited on 6/15/25 at 6:32 pm
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