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re: Minnesota Shooter: Let's Wait for the Facts

Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:03 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467137 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:03 pm to
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FIFY

No. Dude I found his old website on the Wayback Machine

I found his sermon on Youtube.

Hardly "shitposting"

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but narcissistic assholes will grasp at most anything to avoid admitting they were wrong

Did you miss where I did that?

I said fact, but the connotation was evidence. It was a typo. I admitted I used the wrong term in the prior post.

Now you're strangely fixated on it and creating some strawman, ignoring what I actually said.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135732 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:03 pm to
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Just like they refuse to explain why they think an Evangelical Christian who is anti-abortion, anti-trans, and homeschooled is likely to be a Leftist.
Was David DePape radical right? Radical left? Or Just Crazy? The same questions will arise here. Boelter’s a psychopath. Bank it. Whatever political shell seemed to fit his psychopathy, he'd roll in. Certainly if the MSM can spin, twist and contort Boelter as a radical right activist, they will, facts be damned. It's why I find your complicity in the position so disappointing. There is zero interest in truth here. There is zero interest in de-escalation of illogical inflammatory rhetoric. You are complicit in that. Think about it.
Posted by hogcard1964
Alabama
Member since Jan 2017
17650 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:05 pm to
It's a good thing. They're one and the same.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467137 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:09 pm to
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Was David DePape radical right?

My post did not discuss the radical right.

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Or Just Crazy?

These killers are all crazy. School shooters, Tim McVeigh, the nihilist Palm Springs bomber, the 764 people, this guy, etc.

Again, in this specific case, it hasn't stopped people from project him as Leftist, despite all the evidence that it was severely unlikely that he was a Leftist the past 15 years or so.

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Certainly if the MSM can spin, twist and contort Boelter as a radical right activist, they will, facts be damned

The facts support that narrative a lot more than the one promoting him as a Leftist.

Which narrative is out in the public sphere? It seems the MSM is being cautious while the online MAGA ecosphere is creating an incorrect one.

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It's why I find your complicity in the position so disappointing.

I'm only arguing against the weak narrative of the MAGA ecosphere.

I've never called him a "radical right activist" or MAGA, etc.

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There is zero interest in truth here.

Literally what I am doing to counter the silly and irrational MAGA talking point that he's a Leftist.

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There is zero interest in de-escalation of illogical inflammatory rhetoric

Again, LITERALLY what I am doing.

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135732 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:14 pm to
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radical right? Radical left? Or Just Crazy?
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They're one and the same.
Not really. I don't think Rand is crazy. I don't think Sanders is crazy.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135732 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:16 pm to
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Again, LITERALLY what I am doing.
bullshite!
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5648 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:18 pm to
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crazy. I don't think Sanders is crazy.


Ouch SFP. Dude is BATCRAP crazy. Adjusting your PT standing down another notch.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39832 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:18 pm to
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Who is a Democrat? That seems to be a stronger association His list contained a bunch of other Democrats


The message was sent to a turn coat democrat who betrayed the democrats.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467137 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:19 pm to
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bullshite!


The echo chamber narrative that he's a leftist is a bad one and clearly NPC online silliness that isn't truthful or of quality rhetoric.

I'm literally countering that bullshite with facts and destroying their "evidence" to support the bullshite.

The truth is what I'm promoting
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467137 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:20 pm to
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The message was sent to a turn coat democrat who betrayed the democrats.

So why did he kill the Democrat who didn't betray the Democrats?

And why did his hitlist contain so many Democrats on it?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66733 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:21 pm to
Lmfao
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
39832 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:23 pm to
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don’t understand the fixation on every single event and issue being a left vs right thing. I just don’t see any benefit or appeal to that type of rhetoric.


Your side consistently has very violent rhetoric, which has led to extreme violence, so blame them for this escalation
Posted by TheGoodNews
Member since Aug 2024
58 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:23 pm to
This makes no sense. So he goes and shoots another Dem that voted with the party? He had a hit list including other, more progressive Dems.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9046 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:25 pm to
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so blame them for this escalation


In which two Democrats were targeted???
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73329 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:25 pm to
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The echo chamber narrative that he's a leftist is a bad one and clearly NPC online silliness that isn't truthful or of quality rhetoric.


in reality: it seems like a bunch of posters are just poking holes in your determined campaign to paint this the shooter as an Evangelical Catholic Conservative before all the details are known.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66733 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:25 pm to
Seems alot more personal than political doesn’t it?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467137 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:25 pm to
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Your side consistently has very violent rhetoric, which has led to extreme violence, so blame them for this escalation


The escalation by the Evangelical Christians like this guy?
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
25987 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:25 pm to
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before all the details are known.


You still need more details lol
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
73329 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:26 pm to
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The escalation by the Evangelical Christians like this guy?


and this is the type of disingenuous dogshit that keeps people from being able to take you seriously.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
467137 posts
Posted on 6/15/25 at 5:26 pm to
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it seems like a bunch of posters are just poking holes in your determined campaign to paint this the shooter as an Evangelical Catholic Conservative

Catholic? I specifically argued otherwise.

He's a legit Evangelical. I literally posted links to his church, sermons, etc. earlier. Oh yeah and his Evangelical interpretation philosophy.

That part is not in dispute.
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