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re: Midsize Bank Coalition ($15B-$115B In Assets) Officially ask FDIC to insure all depositors

Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:25 pm to
Posted by Gaspergou202
Metairie, LA
Member since Jun 2016
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Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:25 pm to
SVB and Signature uninsured depositors were mostly Democrats!

Just saying.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57222 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:27 pm to
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Do you understand how unrealistic that is for even a medium sized business?
Not to mention, why should the government get the bank’s assets, but not the depositors?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57222 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:30 pm to
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And the whole thing smacks of 2008
Not similar at all.

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exactly why Lehman did NOT get a bailout.
Lehman should not have been bailed out. It was insolvent had over leveraged junk assets. SVB has high quality assets. Completely different.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95333 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:32 pm to
Regardless of their assets, Lehman was a canary in the coal mine of other issues in the industry.

Letting them fail was better than blowing money to bail them out only to have another bank fail.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57222 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:32 pm to
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These depositors were just bailed out by the US government, to protect the system, and no those depositors are free to take their money out of the system by going off shore or into decentralized products.
Wait. So you believe the government should have claim to money you deposit in a bank?

Yeah, screwing over depositors and making claims on their deposits is NOT how capital is attracted. What you want will do nothing but cause massive capital flight.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:33 pm to
SVB was not “a small bank.” It was the 5th or 6th largest bank at the time of collapse.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:37 pm to
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Regardless of their assets,
Ypu can’t simply dismiss this. It would be like saying someone should be able to go bankrupt, keep their Ferrari collection, but not pay their creditors.

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Letting them fail was better than blowing money to bail them out only to have another bank fail.
For Lehman? You still would have had more failures, but those banks were way insolvent. They should have failed.

But that’sdoeant address what one should do with SVB’s assets. Who should get those?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57222 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:37 pm to
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SVB was not “a small bank.” It was the 5th or 6th largest bank at the time of collapse.
Its not a TBTF bank. Or even close.
This post was edited on 3/18/23 at 6:38 pm
Posted by stout
Smoking Crack with Hunter Biden
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Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:40 pm to
We should give them all a one-time $600 check
Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
18198 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 7:13 pm to
Nothing but another socialist bail out of the rich elite and their friends.
Posted by rhar61
Member since Nov 2022
5109 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 7:24 pm to
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Nothing but another socialist bail out of the rich elite and their friends.



Never fear, Semantics Man is in the thread to make you feel better about it.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 3/18/23 at 8:22 pm to
Well what I don’t understand is with most of the issue being regulatory and balance sheet issues (short term security vs long term and small bank vs large bank) and how securities are recognized and marked to market or not - why not ease the regulations a bit.

It really isn’t a cash issue per se as much as the banks bet on LT treasuries that nosed dived in price when rates went up. That killed the banks balance sheet. Yes, if they sold those treasuries now they would take a loss but if held to maturity they will get the face value out of them.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
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Posted on 3/18/23 at 8:36 pm to
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10290 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 8:46 pm to
And this will be how they pay 30 trillion in owed money
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10290 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 8:47 pm to
Those midsize banks will be more than likely republican so no they won’t get backing
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 8:52 pm to
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If the FDIC agrees you could expect QE to kickback in which would in turn bring us to hyperinflation.
How would the FDIC covering all deposits to be insured cause QE to be reinstated? How are those related?
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38775 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 8:54 pm to
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don’t have a problem with the FDIC covering depositors as long as they vaporize all the bank investors equity like they are SVB.


$250k might be too low but if you are business you need to take accountability for uninsured deposit
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57222 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 9:39 pm to
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$250k might be too low but if you are business you need to take accountability for uninsured deposit
How do you figure a depositor is “accountable” for what assets the bank purchases? They have NO control over that. Zip. Nada. Zilch.

And keep in mind… SVB bought mostly US treasury bonds. Considered so low in risk, they are considered cash-equivalent in most cases (including the SS “trust fund”).
This post was edited on 3/18/23 at 9:40 pm
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38775 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 9:41 pm to
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How do you figure a depositor is “accountable” for what assets the bank purchases? They have NO control over that. Zip. Nada. Zilch.

And keep in mind… SVB bought mostly US treasury bonds. Considered so low in risk, they are considered cash-equivalent in most cases (including the SS “trust fund”).



You control where you put your money and you can get products to ensure you over $250k
.
You okay with bond holders getting busted out?
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57222 posts
Posted on 3/18/23 at 9:48 pm to
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You control where you put your money
So what do you consider “safer” than US treasuries? What is the asset portfolio of your bank look like?

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and you can get products to ensure you over $250k
Sure. A small business could have like 20 accounts across 20 banks.

You’re making the case that everyone should really only do business with Citi, Chase, Bank of America or Wells Fargo. Sofa king “conservative”.
This post was edited on 3/18/23 at 9:49 pm
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