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re: Midsize Bank Coalition ($15B-$115B In Assets) Officially ask FDIC to insure all depositors
Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:25 pm to Catchfalaya
Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:25 pm to Catchfalaya
SVB and Signature uninsured depositors were mostly Democrats!
Just saying.
Just saying.
Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:27 pm to billjamin
quote:Not to mention, why should the government get the bank’s assets, but not the depositors?
Do you understand how unrealistic that is for even a medium sized business?
Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:30 pm to teke184
quote:Not similar at all.
And the whole thing smacks of 2008
quote:Lehman should not have been bailed out. It was insolvent had over leveraged junk assets. SVB has high quality assets. Completely different.
exactly why Lehman did NOT get a bailout.
Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:32 pm to Taxing Authority
Regardless of their assets, Lehman was a canary in the coal mine of other issues in the industry.
Letting them fail was better than blowing money to bail them out only to have another bank fail.
Letting them fail was better than blowing money to bail them out only to have another bank fail.
Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:32 pm to ned nederlander
quote:Wait. So you believe the government should have claim to money you deposit in a bank?
These depositors were just bailed out by the US government, to protect the system, and no those depositors are free to take their money out of the system by going off shore or into decentralized products.
Yeah, screwing over depositors and making claims on their deposits is NOT how capital is attracted. What you want will do nothing but cause massive capital flight.
Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:33 pm to Taxing Authority
SVB was not “a small bank.” It was the 5th or 6th largest bank at the time of collapse.
Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:37 pm to teke184
quote:Ypu can’t simply dismiss this. It would be like saying someone should be able to go bankrupt, keep their Ferrari collection, but not pay their creditors.
Regardless of their assets,
quote:For Lehman? You still would have had more failures, but those banks were way insolvent. They should have failed.
Letting them fail was better than blowing money to bail them out only to have another bank fail.
But that’sdoeant address what one should do with SVB’s assets. Who should get those?
Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:37 pm to teke184
quote:Its not a TBTF bank. Or even close.
SVB was not “a small bank.” It was the 5th or 6th largest bank at the time of collapse.
This post was edited on 3/18/23 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 3/18/23 at 6:40 pm to Catchfalaya
We should give them all a one-time $600 check
Posted on 3/18/23 at 7:13 pm to TDTOM
Nothing but another socialist bail out of the rich elite and their friends.
Posted on 3/18/23 at 7:24 pm to PUB
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Nothing but another socialist bail out of the rich elite and their friends.
Never fear, Semantics Man is in the thread to make you feel better about it.
Posted on 3/18/23 at 8:22 pm to teke184
Well what I don’t understand is with most of the issue being regulatory and balance sheet issues (short term security vs long term and small bank vs large bank) and how securities are recognized and marked to market or not - why not ease the regulations a bit.
It really isn’t a cash issue per se as much as the banks bet on LT treasuries that nosed dived in price when rates went up. That killed the banks balance sheet. Yes, if they sold those treasuries now they would take a loss but if held to maturity they will get the face value out of them.
It really isn’t a cash issue per se as much as the banks bet on LT treasuries that nosed dived in price when rates went up. That killed the banks balance sheet. Yes, if they sold those treasuries now they would take a loss but if held to maturity they will get the face value out of them.
Posted on 3/18/23 at 8:46 pm to Catchfalaya
And this will be how they pay 30 trillion in owed money
Posted on 3/18/23 at 8:47 pm to Catchfalaya
Those midsize banks will be more than likely republican so no they won’t get backing
Posted on 3/18/23 at 8:52 pm to Catchfalaya
quote:How would the FDIC covering all deposits to be insured cause QE to be reinstated? How are those related?
If the FDIC agrees you could expect QE to kickback in which would in turn bring us to hyperinflation.
Posted on 3/18/23 at 8:54 pm to billjamin
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don’t have a problem with the FDIC covering depositors as long as they vaporize all the bank investors equity like they are SVB.
$250k might be too low but if you are business you need to take accountability for uninsured deposit
Posted on 3/18/23 at 9:39 pm to thelawnwranglers
quote:How do you figure a depositor is “accountable” for what assets the bank purchases? They have NO control over that. Zip. Nada. Zilch.
$250k might be too low but if you are business you need to take accountability for uninsured deposit
And keep in mind… SVB bought mostly US treasury bonds. Considered so low in risk, they are considered cash-equivalent in most cases (including the SS “trust fund”).
This post was edited on 3/18/23 at 9:40 pm
Posted on 3/18/23 at 9:41 pm to Taxing Authority
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How do you figure a depositor is “accountable” for what assets the bank purchases? They have NO control over that. Zip. Nada. Zilch.
And keep in mind… SVB bought mostly US treasury bonds. Considered so low in risk, they are considered cash-equivalent in most cases (including the SS “trust fund”).
You control where you put your money and you can get products to ensure you over $250k
.
You okay with bond holders getting busted out?
Posted on 3/18/23 at 9:48 pm to thelawnwranglers
quote:So what do you consider “safer” than US treasuries? What is the asset portfolio of your bank look like?
You control where you put your money
quote:Sure. A small business could have like 20 accounts across 20 banks.
and you can get products to ensure you over $250k
You’re making the case that everyone should really only do business with Citi, Chase, Bank of America or Wells Fargo. Sofa king “conservative”.
This post was edited on 3/18/23 at 9:49 pm
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