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re: Michigan report...Just got back from Michigan vacation...
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re: Michigan report...Just got back from Michigan vacation...
Orange County (which is where Orlando is) is blue. As is some spots around Tampa and the rest of the I-4 stretch. And pretty much all of South Florida (mostly though bc of snow birds from New York)


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re: Michigan report...Just got back from Michigan vacation...
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Everything I've stated is objective and a fact. None of it is made up. His campaign has suspended funding in the state. He barely won the state in 2016 He can't do campaign rallies anymore to get his messaging out. His path to victory is t including Michigan. That's the signal his campaign is sending. None of that is my opinion.


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You don't do that 3 months out unless it's really really a lost cause.


This is not a fact, that is your opinion.... you're guessing. If Trump won in 2016, I hate to break it to you... he's going to be gaining votes... not from the middle, but from dems, life long dems.

The governor of Michigan might as well be putting Trump stickers on her car, she is the best campaigner Trump has.
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Yes, it appears they have slowed down campaigning in the State


Additionally campaign "experts" still haven't figured out how Trump campaigns. What I see is a guy that is extremely tactical.

You don't run ads on and on and on and on if they are not moving the needle. You step back, lets things settle in, and then strike again under the right circumstances. I believe that is the approach Trump is taking in Michigan. Why? Because that's the approach he took in 2016 when he made a final very hard push days before election day while Hillary was emptying her colostomy bag.


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Magician2


Will you ever stop being a clown


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Did you check any cemeteries?


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The President will win Michigan easier than 2016.


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re: Michigan report...Just got back from Michigan vacation...
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This is not a fact, that is your opinion.... you're guessing. If Trump won in 2016, I hate to break it to you... he's going to be gaining votes... not from the middle, but from dems, life long dems.

The governor of Michigan might as well be putting Trump stickers on her car, she is the best campaigner Trump has.



She's had a consistent 55-60% approval rating during covid. She's sucked arse but the media has painted her in a bright light so she hasn't suffered. But she isn't doing bad like the board thinks.



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Magician2
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re: Michigan report...Just got back from Michigan vacation...
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You don't run ads on and on and on and on if they are not moving the needle. You step back, lets things settle in, and then strike again under the right circumstances. I believe that is the approach Trump is taking in Michigan. Why? Because that's the approach he took in 2016 when he made a final very hard push days before election day while Hillary was emptying her colostomy bag.


Do you agree it wasn't ad spending but his free marketing campaign rallies that moved the needle in 2016?

He doesn't have that luxury now.


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I'm stating an article that came out this week from McClatchy and Bloomberg that states the trump campaign has suspended all ads in michigan. And they interviewed a senior trump official in the state and he confirmed.




Except your link is about a week too late. This has already been posted like a week ago. You need to step up your concern troll game. It’s seven days.

Weak
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Magician2
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he President will win Michigan easier than 2016.




Obama won Michigan by:

800k votes in 2008
450k votes in 2012

Trump won by 10k votes in 2016 but if you look closely ag the numbers 300k voters that went for Obama didn't vote for Hillary and sat out....

Also worth noting trump actually got less votes in Wisconsin than Mitt did in 2012...but trump won in 2016...

It suggests voters in the rust belt hated Hillary and sat out.


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Except your link is about a week too late. This has already been posted like a week ago. You need to step up your concern troll game. It’s seven days.

Weak


I literally just posted the McClatchy article and it was from 3 days ago dumb ass.


Errerrerrwere
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3 days ago dumb ass.


Cool. There was an article before that. Your shtick is week, bro. You do this every damn day.


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re: Michigan report...Just got back from Michigan vacation...
Latest polls have Gov Whitmer with over 50% approval.

Whatever backlash that is supposedly against her is not showing up in the polls.


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I do generally agree with your sentiment there as the 2016 data bears it out. Many Dems sat out in WI and MI and those states were not heavily contested. PA on the other hand saw high turnout on both sides, with Trump getting several hundred thousand more votes than Romney. So I do feel the best on PA out of PA/MI/WI. I think Trump’s odds in the swing states (best chance to worst chance) are:
FL (80%)
NC (75%)
PA (60%)
WI (50%)
AZ (45%)
MN (40%)
MI (35%)
NV (30%)
NH (30%)
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Magician2
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Cool. There was an article before that. Your shtick is week, bro. You do this every damn day.



Link?


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Magician2
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Latest polls have Gov Whitmer with over 50% approval.

Whatever backlash that is supposedly against her is not showing up in the polls.




You'll be labeled a concerned troll for posting facts.


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jimmy the leg
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re: Michigan report...Just got back from Michigan vacation...
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The golden rule is you spend in states within margin of error that you know you think you can win. Pulling out ad spend a traditional blue stare does not suggest he's well ahead and he's reallocating funds elsewhere because of that. It means the opposite.


All true normally, but these are not normal times. I suppose we will see.


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Magician2
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I do generally agree with your sentiment there as the 2016 data bears it out. Many Dems sat out in WI and MI and those states were not heavily contested. PA on the other hand saw high turnout on both sides, with Trump getting several hundred thousand more votes than Romney. So I do feel the best on PA out of PA/MI/WI. I think Trump’s odds in the swing states (best chance to worst chance) are:
FL
NC
PA
WI
AZ
MN
NH
MI
NV


100% agree with you. PA didn't have anyone sit out. Trump legitamely flipped 300k voters that went for Obama in 2012.

I had a post back in 2017 pointing that out when discussing the 3 rust belt states.

Trump crushed it in PA.

For some reason though polls are suggesting he is favored in WI more than the other 2. Regardless all he needs is just 1 of them and to keep the other.

Obviously Florida being the biggest purple state.


GeneralLee
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re: Michigan report...Just got back from Michigan vacation...
I would submit that two items are logically true:
- At this point in time, Trump is not winning outside the MOE in Michigan
- Trump is not doing materially different in PA versus WI or MI. But yet, Trump is still doing ads in PA and WI.

Given these strong “facts”, I think Trump pulling ads out of MI temporarily (for month of August) is likely just some technical call, not at all giving up on MI or thinking it is in the bag.


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