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Memo to the globalist/corporatists who are freaked out over potential trade war with China
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:12 pm
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:12 pm
Wake the hell up! I'm hoping some of you understand the implications of China being the equal of the US economically and eventually militarily, it's not a good scenario. Trump is right, there is no trade war because the DC Swamp politicians and their corporatist cronies have already prepared to concede the title of World Economic Champ to China, Trump wants to try to prevent that scenario from happening. It's unbelievable that the powers that be thought it was a good idea to assist China by completely overhauling and modernizing their economy, only to position that communist country to be the most powerful economic force in history?
You couldn't buy a Cuban cigar because the US had a little tiff with that communist country but you can buy virtually anything you want from China. This China BS that the US allowed to happen was all based on shortsighted greed.
So now the government/country is concerned with the trade imbalance with China. Many folks who weren't directly involved getting rich on the idiocy of industrializing China's economy saw this crap coming 30 years ago, hopefully Trump can at least get an acceptable trade deal in place and force China to comply with the WTO agreements. I say short term pain for long term gain.
You couldn't buy a Cuban cigar because the US had a little tiff with that communist country but you can buy virtually anything you want from China. This China BS that the US allowed to happen was all based on shortsighted greed.
So now the government/country is concerned with the trade imbalance with China. Many folks who weren't directly involved getting rich on the idiocy of industrializing China's economy saw this crap coming 30 years ago, hopefully Trump can at least get an acceptable trade deal in place and force China to comply with the WTO agreements. I say short term pain for long term gain.
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Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:13 pm to Bass Tiger
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It's unbelievable that the powers that be thought it was a good idea to assist China by completely overhauling and modernizing their economy, only to position that communist country to be the most powerful economic force in history?
To be fair, from an economic stand point, China is not really communist at all.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:19 pm to Bass Tiger
quote:And it was stupid, ineffective, and probably just prolonged the length of their communist tenure as exposure to capitalism is a great solution to moving towards capitalism.
You couldn't buy a Cuban cigar because the US had a little tiff with that communist country
But by all means, continue with your own sky screaming, prog filth logic to justify poor and harmful policies in your own mind.
This post was edited on 4/6/18 at 8:21 pm
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:20 pm to Antonio Moss
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To be fair, from an economic stand point, China is not really communist at all.
Only because the US went into that country and gave the communist fricks the technology and resources to modernize their economy. The Chinese government is 1000% commie. The US has always had a clear objective to demonstrably prove that communism is inferior to capitalism but it appears the greed component of capitalism has come back to bite the US in the arse.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:23 pm to Bass Tiger
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Only because the US went into that country and gave the communist fricks the technology and resources to modernize their economy.
That's demonstratively false.
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Chinese government is 1000% commie. The US has always had a clear objective to demonstrably prove that communism is inferior to capitalism but it appears the greed component of capitalism has come back to bite the US in the arse.
You clearly don't know anything about China.
This post was edited on 4/6/18 at 8:25 pm
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:24 pm to Bass Tiger
I have been concerned about China since I was a kid. After visiting mainland China and Hong Kong in the early 2000s and seeing the blatant theft of intellectual property..."Apple Stores" selling bootleg or knock off goods. Hacked Sony and Microsoft products in department stores...list goes on...I could never understand how we allow this to go on. I would have no issues with evening the playing field with China if it felt like it was part of a cohesive strategy. We both know it doesn't appear that way right now.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:24 pm to buckeye_vol
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And it was stupid, ineffective, and probably just prolonged the length of their communist tenure as exposure to capitalism is a great solution to moving towards capitalism.
China is not going to move to a western style democracy based on capitalism, they suckered the US into super charging their economy and the ruling communist party is probably still clinking glasses of fine wine and liquors toasting one another wondering how they pulled this shite off.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:28 pm to buckeye_vol
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And it was stupid, ineffective, and probably just prolonged the length of their communist tenure as exposure to capitalism is a great solution to moving towards capitalism.
Never mind.
This post was edited on 4/6/18 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:28 pm to Antonio Moss
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You clearly don't know anything about China.
Last I heard they had a commie leader with no term limits, sounds pretty commie to me.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:30 pm to Tigerdev
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I have been concerned about China since I was a kid.
MacArthur (and Patton -- your Russia Russia Russia) tried to do something about it, but the left wimped out. Just like in Vietnam.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:31 pm to Bass Tiger
Step out of line? Look what happens. Social credit
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:31 pm to Bass Tiger
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Last I heard they had a commie leader with no term limits, sounds pretty commie to me.
That's not what communism means.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:33 pm to Tigerdev
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seeing the blatant theft of intellectual property..."Apple Stores" selling bootleg or knock off goods. Hacked Sony and Microsoft products in department stores...list goes on...I could never understand how we allow this to go on.
You've just realized that the concept of international law is farce.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:35 pm to buckeye_vol
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But by all means, continue with your own sky screaming, prog filth logic to justify poor and harmful policies in your own mind.
Prog filth logic? What the hell are you sky screaming about? I always thought if the US was going to have a relationship with a communist country Cuba was the logical choice not China! My statement about not being able to buy a Cuban cigar was to illustrate the irony of the US taking Red China to world economic superpower while at the same time still keeping Cuba at arm's length.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:38 pm to Antonio Moss
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That's not what communism means.
Yeah I know dipshit, it was just an example of what the communist government can do with a quick nod from the members of the party.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:39 pm to Bass Tiger
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I always thought if the US was going to have a relationship with a communist country Cuba was the logical choice not China! My statement about not being able to buy a Cuban cigar was to illustrate the irony of the US taking Red China to world economic superpower while at the same time still keeping Cuba at arm's length.
It's because Cuba was an extension of the influence of the USSR while even the Soviets recognized how insane Mao was. Furthermore, Cuba still runs close to a command economy resulting in basically no economic output while China, for all intents and purposes, has been capitalist society since the 1980s and has become the economic monster of the far east.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:42 pm to Bass Tiger
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Yeah I know dipshit, it was just an example of what the communist government can do with a quick nod from the members of the party.
So can a lot of other types of governments. In fact, one of our largest trading partners is Saudi Arabia - a much more brutal and anti-capitalistic country than China.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:49 pm to Antonio Moss
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It's because Cuba was an extension of the influence of the USSR while even the Soviets recognized how insane Mao was. Furthermore, Cuba still runs close to a command economy resulting in basically no economic output while China, for all intents and purposes, has been capitalist society since the 1980s and has become the economic monster of the far east.
My point is the US created this China economic conundrum and for some reason you seem to be ok with it. Why would a superpower want to create another superpower? It does not take deep thinking to understand that the situation the US is faced with now is not some big surprise. The only reason I can come up with is the people directly involved with the decision to modernize China's economy made a shite load of money.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:51 pm to Bass Tiger
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My point is the US created this China economic conundrum and for some reason you seem to be ok with it
As I said earlier, this is demonstratively false.
Posted on 4/6/18 at 8:51 pm to Bass Tiger
China is terribly positioned for a trade war with us. We are by far their major customer, whereas we export very little to them (but much of what we do export is food, which they can't grow enough of themselves). They can't replace a trade partner like us, and there are dozens of countries that would like to step in and take up the slack for us. So they are going to piss off their largest customer, provide opportunity for their other low-cost production rivals in Asia, and impact their food supply? And all that happens to us is the cheap crap we import from China gets a little more expensive? Combine that with the domestic deregulation we are doing and the corporate tax cuts, and we should be able to take up some of the slack ourselves. This is the last thing china wants to happen. We hold all the cards in the relationship, and yet for some reason we have let them walk all over us for 30 years, modernizing and expanding at our expense, stealing our technology and trade secrets with impunity. frick that. There is no free trade with China
This post was edited on 4/6/18 at 8:55 pm
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