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re: Mega church pastor says: Penalizing Women for Abortion Is Not Pro-Life

Posted on 5/17/19 at 9:26 am to
Posted by bfniii
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Posted on 5/17/19 at 9:26 am to
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I'm saying that in general most mega churches
so you made the comment not knowing whether it applies to prestonwood or not

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What's a Prestonwood?
exactly. maybe you should brush up before commenting on this topic
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/17/19 at 9:30 am to
I go to a semi mega church. There are plenty of mega churches to make the complaint about but the Village and Prestonwood aren’t them.
Posted by TOSOV
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Posted on 5/17/19 at 9:34 am to
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Gays weren’t criminalized. What I meant is the church saying “eww those people are icky and terrible and we don’t want anything to do with them” without being willing to love on them despite their sin is the same approach. The church will take a long time to make up for treating homosexuals like lepers and not ministering to them.


I see now. Problem is that the church cant let them bring their behavior into it. it's like letting an alcoholic sit their drinking or a hooker to work tricks. Gays want to continue being gay as an acceptable Christian act, and it's not.

If a gay person wants to move past their sinful behavior then good, but it doesnt hurt the church if they want to continue doing it. It hurts them. Church cant be a "beacon" if it over looks it.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 5/17/19 at 9:40 am to
His position is correct, I just don't understand the point he is trying to make unless it is completely out of context.

If he was talking about the current legislation in some states he is out of line bringing it up because none of the laws call for prosecution of the mother.

Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 9:45 am to
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The term "Southern Baptist" doesn't carry nearly the weight and moral legitimacy it did a quarter century ago
and this suggests to me you aren't well informed on this subject. people treat the sbc like a denomination but the sbc only exists for one week every year. after that, every church goes their own way. so, if you know that, then you're blanketing every sbc church with the same criticism which is dumb.

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including the current SBC president) trying their best to turn it into the Southern Methodist Convention.
what has greear said to make you think this?

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The rest are trying to unbrand it and turn it into the Southern Evangelical Megachurch Convention
this is ridiculous. who are "the rest"? quote what they said. and the vast majority of sbc churches in the convention are less than 200 people.

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that's coming from someone who bailed on it after spending 30+ years as an observant, tithing, Southern Baptist.
based on your commets, i don't think you made a well informed decision
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 5/17/19 at 11:07 am to
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and this suggests to me you aren't well informed on this subject. people treat the sbc like a denomination but the sbc only exists for one week every year. after that, every church goes their own way. so, if you know that, then you're blanketing every sbc church with the same criticism which is dumb


Ehh... SBC is more than a once a year meeting. There’s Lottie Moon drives, Missionaries have to go through the SBC for good funding (if there’s something the SBC does right it’s missions giving) votes throughout the year on policy, etc. it definitely does not have the same power over its churches that the Catholic Church does. That being said there is a big push for SJW causes coming from leadership (looking at you Russel Moore)
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 1:22 pm to
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SBC is more than a once a year meeting.
wrong. the things you listed were either committees or church cooperative efforts, not a monolithic denomination like the others we've been discussing

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Russel Moore
he can try all he wants. i personally haven't seen anything to indicate he's anything more than an agitator
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 5/17/19 at 1:26 pm to
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His position is correct, I just don't understand the point he is trying to make unless it is completely out of context.

If he was talking about the current legislation in some states he is out of line bringing it up because none of the laws call for prosecution of the mother.


Texas, his state, had one going thru that did have it in it.
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