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re: Medicaid people should be required to take the vaccine to continue benefits

Posted on 7/25/21 at 8:06 pm to
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 7/25/21 at 8:06 pm to
Not at all.

Your logic is take whatever you can from government with no restrictions.
This post was edited on 7/25/21 at 8:07 pm
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7120 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:25 am to
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To say these vaccines are experimental is a stretch.

Name one single drug that 300+ million doses were administered in the USA last year???

People have irrational, contrived fears of the vaccine.


The delivery mechanism is new, I think the whole spike protein creation is new, and the pharmaceutical companies have protections against liability. So, what happens in 5 years if we find out the risk of cancer is 200% higher for people who got the shot? We just say sorry Charlie?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 4:13 am to
Are you saying Trump should have made the testing last five years??
Posted by DTRooster
Belle River, La
Member since Dec 2013
7961 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 5:35 am to
Just maybe Trump, Biden, Fauci, Gates, IB Chinaman, etc can shove that experimental shot up there own arse is what he’s saying
Posted by xxTIMMYxx
Member since Aug 2019
17562 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 6:31 am to
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The vaccines are proven to lower hospitalizations and 37% of all COVID hospitalizations in Louisiana were paid for by Medicaid. Reducing those future numbers either by vaccinating the Medicaid people or having them opt out of Medicaid system is a good thing for tax payers


People are actually going to the hospital for fat related problems
Posted by NytroBud
LaFayette
Member since Jun 2009
4067 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 6:34 am to
Your screen name is I B Freeman yet you want to force others to give up their freedoms. That would be a big frick you from me.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21600 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 7:24 am to
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OMG how many years do you want it tested before you think it safe????


If it's so safe what's with the qualified immunity status that doesn't allow the companies behind the vaccine to be sued?
Posted by cssamerican
Member since Mar 2011
7120 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 8:23 am to
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Are you saying Trump should have made the testing last five years??

No, I’m just saying the government demanding people take it is not something that should happen. The government should explain the benefits of the vaccine and let people know of possible risk, then let people decide for themselves.
Posted by BillRose
Texas
Member since Jun 2021
989 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:25 pm to
Another dumb thing to say, I have been paying into social security for 50 years. I pay premiums for medicare. You airheaded fascists know nothing. The really funny part is Medicaid is for very low income people, that would be generally leftrats. So in effect you are saying let the leftrats die. Medicaid exists because of taxes people like me pay into the system.
Posted by BillRose
Texas
Member since Jun 2021
989 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 1:29 pm to
You truly missed your calling, you should have been Goebbels right hand man.
Posted by Peruviantiger
Member since Nov 2017
69 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 2:10 pm to
Though I understand the concept you are presenting, but some have no choice in the matter. I am not talking about those on welfare and food stamps because they are not working and are professional government moochers. I am talking about self employed men in the trades. As a self employed man, I was forced onto it after taking my income into consideration after Schedule C.
All of this is due to Toucan Sam / Bug eyes (JBE) expanding medicaid when he first got elected. I refuse to take the "vaccine" now nor in the future. I already have my "No Trespassing", "Beware of Dog" (huge anatolian shepherd that faithfully protects his land) and "All Violators Will Be Shot" signs on my fences and gates for when the house to house visits start. I should not be forced to do something by a system that I was forced into.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 2:52 pm to
If your income is so low because of Schedule C deductions you certainly qualify for subsidized ACA at very low cost.

You can leave medicaid but if you keep taking it I think you should have to get the vaccine or agree to pay for all health expenses you incur as a result of any COVID infection you get.
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 3:07 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 2:55 pm to
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People are actually going to the hospital for fat related problems


That doesn't make my point any less valid.

There absolutely should be mandated personal responsibility for medicaid recipients. Just because there are none for overweight people does not mean there shouldn't be any for COVID vaccines.

Opt out of medicaid if you don't want the vaccine.
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 3:10 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 2:58 pm to
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You airheaded fascists


Only a mind numb simpleton would think me a fascist or air headed.

It is pretty much air headed to support Medicaid but expect the leeches to have no personal responsibility for their health care.

This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 3:11 pm
Posted by weadjust
Member since Aug 2012
15103 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 2:59 pm to
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When one takes free things from other taxpayers they give up certain choices.


So every business that took a PPP loan that doesn't have to be repaid should also require all employees to be vaccinated?

Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 2:59 pm to
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Your screen name is I B Freeman yet you want to force others to give up their freedoms.


Which people are you talking about---the people FORCED to pay for Medicaid or the people getting medicaid for nothing????

quote:

That would be a big frick you from me.


Back at you, simpleton.
This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 3:12 pm
Posted by Swazla
Member since Jul 2016
1447 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:02 pm to
You mean so the can sterilize all those pesky black people? Isn’t that what you really mean?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:04 pm to
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No, I’m just saying the government demanding people take it is not something that should happen. The government should explain the benefits of the vaccine and let people know of possible risk, then let people decide for themselves


Ok. I don't disagree.

BUT clearly people that have given up choice in their healthcare and expect the rest of us to pay for it should expect to be forced to abide by the terms of the free healthcare they are getting. Those terms should include the vaccine requirement-- no different than admission to school requires childhood vaccinations.

You want people to have their cake and eat it too at the expense of the taxpayers.

I want the taxpayers to be protected from the higher cost of the health care give away.

How about this---let's just do away with Medicaid altogether??

This post was edited on 7/26/21 at 3:14 pm
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:09 pm to
If that had been a qualification of PPP---yes. Why not?
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 7/26/21 at 3:12 pm to
What are you talking about?
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