re: Meckler: Optimistic for a Convention of States by 2026. Count at 19 right now

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States can step in and pass amendments that gut DC if they decided to. Right now, they are simply trying to curb the federal power and return it to the states.

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If we could get congressional term limits, an enforceable federal budget amendment and some severe restrictions on the Bureaucratic State’s revolving door MIC/corporate lobbying scam you would begin to see power returning to the states and a gradual reduction in the federal government…..after that deal with the Federal Reserve and the rest of the entrenched government corruption.

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If they're voting for shite at a COS that is counter to what the legislature wants, then yes. If they compromise more than the legislative body is down with, then yes. If a proposed amendment is advanced that the legislative body does not agree with, then yes.

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Right. I just don’t see any of those ifs as real options. I believe that any delegation will be voting with the proxy of its State legislative leadership.

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do you believe state legislatures would better rein in an overreaching/overspending federal government than the federal gov't itself?

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No. They can’t do it in their states. They sure as frick can’t do it for fed gov.

The solution is electing better members of Congress. R and D. Quit electing showboaters, single issue sycophants, born-again social warriors, purple hairs, race-baiters, and faux-celebrities. Vote for people who actually run on principle and policy.

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Why did you repost the same post? Go read and respond to my reply when you posted it the first time.

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Because you ignored (which btw... I stated that it was useless with you on posting these things because you ignore it.) the factual rulings and the content.


So when you respond to those things... let me know.

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Because you ignored (which btw... I stated that it was useless with you on posting these things because you ignore it.) the factual rulings and the content.

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What factual ruling?

You relied on a Congressional act to counter my point that Congressional actions cannot stand against a constitutional amendment.

Why won’t you address that point? The point that a COS can simply ignore then nullify anything Congress has ever done. You cited nothing to refute that point. Nothing from Congress ever can—don’t quote anything from Congress.

I predict you’ll deflect and cite to nothing to oppose the simple proposition that a constitutional amendment can undo anything Congress has ever done.

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Yes. Because the only reason these people win is because only 1/2 the eligible population votes. The population doesn’t deserve better until it decides to participate in its own governance. Until then, we have the EXACT government that we deserve.

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This is the Convention of States thread.

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You’re the one that brought up nonsense about campaign funding. You went off the tracks, I’m just following you.

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My point about who owns Congress versus who owns state legislatures goes directly to this COS discussion - specifically your belief that Congress better reflects our preferences than state legislatures do, and should be trusted to fix itself.

The post of yours I was responding to was some sort of general comment about voters getting the government they vote for. Scintillating commentary, but doesn’t really mean anything w/re to a COS.

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You think those are different?

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Yes. I think state legislatures are not lobbied in the volume and with the horsepower that Congress is.

I also think it makes a difference that state legislators live in the communities they represent in a way house/senate members rarely do. How many states have full-time legislatures? The only ones I’m familiar with are made up by people that live and work with their constituents.

If I want an amendment establishing term limits or forcing a balanced budget at the federal level, I absolutely have more ability to influence my state legislature than I do congress.

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And I think it means everything. We collectively run and vote for self serving retards for the most part. The best and brightest aren’t advanced at any level in any arena for any positio

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My point is nobody disagrees with you here, and it doesn’t have much to do with the COS debate.

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I don’t want any of those people to have the open-ended power to repeal and replace the Constitution like the COS affords. I’d rather nothing happen

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They already do. You know that, right? But to this point only congress has used the tool afforded it by the founders to initiate an amendment to the constitution. What we’re talking about doing is fundamentally changing how congress conducts business. I think it’s a pipe dream that congress will fix itself - make it less lucrative to serve and limit the dollars it can spend. The only practical way to effect this change starts with the states.

Sounds to me like a huge Trojan Horse.

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The degree of total retard that occupies the average state legislative seat is exactly why I don’t support a COS. I’d rather Congress do nothing than absolute imbeciles from the several States doing anything.

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Like congress is full of the best and brightest? Your fear of state legislatures is irrational and your faith in congress is misplaced.

But the bigger problem is that congress isn’t doing “nothing.” You don’t get to choose “congress do nothing” while it’s busy bankrupting the country, destroying the middle class, ignoring or even fostering the erosion of our liberties, making our border inconsequential and feeding Ukraine/MIC every dollar it can handle.

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Put James Madison in my state legislature and I’ll support a COS. But until that happens, excuse me for opposing a convention that would propose amendments based on cable news, their preferred religion, and/or tik tok

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You do not fear the federal government enough. My bet is that’ll change.