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re: Mayor Mamdani just visited a man who got shot while charging at a cop with a knife.

Posted on 2/4/26 at 10:41 am to
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72129 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 10:41 am to
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When someone calls about a family member in a mental health crisis, a mobile crisis team should be sent out; not the police. Unless of course, the person is committing a crime, then both should be called out. It’s not rocket science. It’s mental healthcare.


Seems like it wouldn't be THAT hard to have a well paid ACTUAL group of police specialists capable of both standard police engagement and mental health intervention/de-escalation.

Seems WAY safer than sending out some poor social worker to a potentially dangerous situation in a location without suitable backup.
Posted by Richleau
Member since Dec 2018
4430 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 10:44 am to
The guy is a Rothschild prop and a tool to incite division. He is an abstraction.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 10:53 am to
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What about the scenario where the crazy person doesn't brandish a weapon until after the social worker arrives? Just a dead social worker then. No big deal. Your softness leads to death.

You, and the majority of others here, have no idea how mobile crisis teams work or they or how they deal with those situations.

In Baton Rouge and New Orleans, they get several calls and respond to them every day.
This post was edited on 2/4/26 at 10:55 am
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 10:56 am to
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Yes. Because it's worked so well every time it's been proposed before. This was a big push during the allowed BLM riots. Remember? Replacing responders with social workers?

That’s not what he’s advocating for. Nor is it what I’m advocating for.
Posted by LSUTANGERINE
Baton Rouge and Northshore LA
Member since Sep 2006
38468 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 11:03 am to
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The department encourages social workers to call for a police escort in situations they anticipate to be volatile…

yes.

I’m an advocate for both in volatile situations.
The police are ill prepared to deal with a patient in a mental health crisis by themselves and they never should be sent on their own, at least if there is a mobile crisis team available. I remember that case of the autistic and deaf guy who was flailing on the ground in the middle of the street and the police shot him.

Don’t remember if he died or not. But hey, the autistic guy did not kill anybody on that day. So that’s a win.
This post was edited on 2/4/26 at 11:07 am
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36324 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 11:07 am to
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When someone calls about a family member in a mental health crisis, a mobile crisis team should be sent out; not the police. Unless of course, the person is committing a crime, then both should be called out. It’s not rocket science. It’s mental healthcare.


You have never spent time in a mental health facility and it shows.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
110953 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 11:11 am to
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It’s not rocket science. It’s mental healthcare.


Right. One operates in rather exact scientifically predictable framework.

The other is mental healthcare.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
17467 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 11:13 am to
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That’s not what he’s advocating for. Nor is it what I’m advocating for.


But the article says:

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He's proposing a Department of Community Safety to handle such crises with social workers, while NYPD manages violent situations.


Sounds kinda like he is exactly wanting what I said. Because he said it in response to this incident and is also advocating for someone that committed a crime to not be charged for it. Or that is a very poorly worded article.

Here is the issue. Someone have a "mental health crisis", like seeing a vehicle with a trump bumper sticker, or hearing someone utter a "triggering" word, may not be considered violent until someone shows up and then they immediately turn violent. Then you have a dead social worker.

And this is exactly what was proposed during the BLM riot response. Remember the defund the police movements? So why is this not a prevalent practice among all these defund cities? They just didn't do it right then? Get it right this time?
This post was edited on 2/4/26 at 11:15 am
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36324 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 11:26 am to
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Schizophrenia is a horrific affliction.


And episodes often include violence.
Posted by junkfunky
Member since Jan 2011
36324 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 11:29 am to
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LSUTANGERINE


I seriously would like to know how much time you have spent inside mental health facilities as either staff or as a patient.
Posted by reelingintheyears
Member since Jan 2026
357 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 11:33 am to
The audacity of that officer!
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
39856 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 2:45 pm to
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And episodes often include violence.
I'm not questioning the shoot. It was a good shoot. I'm saying putting them in asylums rather than prisons doesn't strike me as a bad idea.
Posted by riverdiver
Summerville SC
Member since May 2022
2984 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 2:57 pm to
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When someone calls about a family member in a mental health crisis, a mobile crisis team should be sent out; not the police. Unless of course, the person is committing a crime, then both should be called out. It’s not rocket science. It’s mental healthcare.


So what does the “mobile crisis team” do when the person advances on them with a weapon?
Run? Hide? Get killed?
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
11234 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 3:35 pm to
wtf
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8422 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 4:53 pm to
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A lot of NYPD retirements and resignations will be coming soon.



More NY cops and firefighters coming to FLA. At least its not the bad ones.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
42331 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 4:55 pm to
More likely than not it will gut the NYPD via attrition at a faster rate than was already happening.
Posted by Reagan80
Earth
Member since Feb 2023
2330 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 5:58 pm to
Hope fired the cop and apologized.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49525 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:05 pm to
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You are dealing with people with mental health issues, people that are unpredictable with every decision they make

You talking about democrats/??
Posted by reelingintheyears
Member since Jan 2026
357 posts
Posted on 2/4/26 at 6:12 pm to
Someone explain to me being blue pilled vs. red pilled?
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
20102 posts
Posted on 2/5/26 at 2:42 am to
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But the Socialists will scream he didn't get enough time, money or support to implement his democratic socialist plan. He must fail at every turn, because if he succeeds at anything god help us.


Nothing his people have done the past 1300 years has shown any indication this will turn out well.

They have moved backwards since they crusades. It’s very embarrassing.
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