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re: Maybe Scalise didn't actually speak to Euro-Conference

Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:28 pm to
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Do you have any idea what the man actually said??

It doesn't matter what he said. His very presence lent legitimacy to this group. Spin it however you want, but republicans beginning with Mike Foster have been salivating at the prospect of tapping into Duke's base of support and Scalise is no exception.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:28 pm to
In politics, optics is the only thing that matters.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62025 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:31 pm to
Why would it matter even if Scalise spoke in front of the group knowing they were White Supremacist? Other's past don't seem to matter?!


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As a freshman at Columbia University in 1970, future Attorney General Eric Holder participated in a five-day occupation of an abandoned Naval Reserve Officer Training Corps (ROTC) headquarters with a group of black students later described by the university’s Black Students’ Organization as “armed,” The Daily Caller has learned. Department of Justice spokeswoman Tracy Schmaler has not responded to questions from The Daily Caller about whether Holder himself was armed — and if so, with what sort of weapon.
This post was edited on 12/31/14 at 1:32 pm
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:34 pm to
Can someone please explain to me why the shite dems do have any relationship to conservative politicians?

Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:39 pm to
Shouldn't White Supremacist deserve equal representation as every other group?
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11769 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:42 pm to
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Obama attended a racist church and is friends with its racist pastor Rev Wright and there's no way around it.


FIFY
This post was edited on 12/31/14 at 1:44 pm
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48220 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:42 pm to
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Can someone please explain to me why the shite dems do have any relationship to conservative politicians?

hmmm - could it be to highlight blatant hypocrisy??

If you want me to be outraged - you need to tell me what Scalise said to the group.

Can you do that??

If not, you can stfu.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
7053 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:44 pm to
They should get representation, just not by conservatives.

White supremacists are idiots and have no place in an intelligent conversation.

Any true fiscal conservative knows promoting one race over another is illogical and useless.

At least some conservatives are saying what needs to be said about Scalise.
“This is acidic for the Republican Party,” said Peter Wehner, a former adviser to President George W. Bush. “I just think it is an untenable position to have a person in the leadership of the Republican Party in the House who has spoken to a white supremacist group.”

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This post was edited on 12/31/14 at 1:45 pm
Posted by lsu13lsu
Member since Jan 2008
11769 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:45 pm to
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Why would it matter even if Scalise spoke in front of the group knowing they were White Supremacist? Other's past don't seem to matter?!


Dems faux outrage. They will yell about anything Republicans do then fall deaf and dumb when Dems do it.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
48220 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:49 pm to
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“I just think it is an untenable position to have a person in the leadership of the Democrat Party in the House who has spoken to Al Sharpton
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:50 pm to
I usually cringe when I hear the "if the other side did this" type of arguments, but it is striking that this is such a big deal for Scalise when Obama had the free pass for sitting in Jeremiah Wright's church for a couple of decades.
Posted by Champagne
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:57 pm to
IMHO, this needn't be difficult.

If he DID speak to that organization, he should apologize for his mistake in not realizing what they stood for and step down from his leadership position in order to allow the party to move on from the controversy.

Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84622 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 1:58 pm to
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If he DID speak to that organization, he should apologize for his mistake in not realizing what they stood for and step down from his leadership position in order to allow the party to move on from the controversy.


He admitted he spoke to them about tax policy. He has already apologized and called it a mistake.

I don't think he needs to resign- he spoke about tax policy. A failure to vet should not be a fatal mistake.

However, I know politics is now a game of optics, but personally, I don't think what he did should be cause for him to lose his leadership position.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62025 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 2:04 pm to
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I usually cringe when I hear the "if the other side did this" type of arguments, but it is striking that this is such a big deal for Scalise when Obama had the free pass for sitting in Jeremiah Wright's church for a couple of decades.



Not to mention that Al Sharpton has had about 80 visits to the White House as the unofficial race czar and besides being a blatant racists, is also a tax cheat!
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/31/14 at 2:36 pm to
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You really think keeping Scalise is a net benefit for the conservative political movement? 




Why is it that far left whacked out nutjobs are always trying to "help" the political fortunes of conservatives?

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I'll wait. 
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
7053 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 2:40 pm to
I'm not far left. I'm a conservative who hates stupid.

And some congressman who claims he didn't know he was going to meet with a group of white supremacists and is being vouched for by David dukes people is not someone who represents me and shows the GOP doesn't care about minority or intelligent voters.

Like someone else said, at least Paul rand appears to care.
Posted by Layabout
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2011
11082 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 2:42 pm to
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Why would it matter even if Scalise spoke in front of the group knowing they were White Supremacist? Other's past don't seem to matter?!



quote:

As a freshman at Columbia University in 1970, future Attorney General Eric Holder participated in a five-day occupation


Do you not understand that there is a world of difference between a 19-year old college student doing something stupid and a 36-year old elected state representative?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62025 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 2:42 pm to
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And some congressman who claims he didn't know he was going to meet with a group of white supremacists and is being vouched for by David dukes people is not someone who represents me and shows the GOP doesn't care about minority or intelligent voters.



So you only want the GOP to represent people who fall inside the tent that you inhabit? What if you were anti- gay and Scalise went to a pro gay crowd for a fund raiser? Would you be against that?
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
62025 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 2:46 pm to
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Do you not understand that there is a world of difference between a 19-year old college student doing something stupid and a 36-year old elected state representative?


Scalise's meeting was 12 years ago making Scalise 24 at the time. Is that a world of difference?
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
84622 posts
Posted on 12/31/14 at 2:48 pm to
I think he already subtracted the 12 years when calling him 36.
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