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re: Matt Walsh discusses an often unmentioned wrinkle in murder statistics.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:09 pm to SlowFlowPro
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You're using the wrong framing.
Not if I am comparing majority white areas to multicultural hubs (large cities).
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Mid-70s to mid-90s were hell on Earth in America.
And its still much worse today than it was in the 1960s.
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Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:11 pm to Azkiger
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Not if I am comparing majority white areas to multicultural hubs (large cities).
Even this doesn't work because you're ignoring the post 1995 data of crime in multicultural hubs decreasing dramatically
Your thesis is not reflected by the data without dishonest framing, ignoring the period after the mid-90s when pathologies dramatically decreased for 20 years
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And its still much worse today than it was in the 1960s.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:14 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
It is undoubtedly the case that the absolute number of murders are down at least in some part due to advances in trauma care and a responsive emergency medical system.
The vast improvements were from roughly the Vietnam war through, at the latest, 2000.
The decreases since then have been primarily driven by decreases in crime rates and not improvements in treatments.
The vast improvements were from roughly the Vietnam war through, at the latest, 2000.
The decreases since then have been primarily driven by decreases in crime rates and not improvements in treatments.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:16 pm to Speckhunter2012
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The leftists are in full force maneuvering to bring about (the) Cloward-Piven (Strategy).
They brought that on decades ago.
We are seeing the results today in our national debt.
It accelerated under Obama (immigration and USAID) into 4th gear. Biden (immigration) kicked it into 5th gear.
This post was edited on 4/6/26 at 10:24 pm
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Even this doesn't work because you're ignoring the post 1995 data of crime in multicultural hubs decreasing dramatically
Your thesis is not reflected by the data without dishonest framing, ignoring the period after the mid-90s when pathologies dramatically decreased for 20 years
I guess you'd be right if I stated that race was the only factor that determined criminality.
Thankfully I didn't.
All the stats are on my side, murder rates per capita per race, aggravated assaults way up, etc.
When progressives like yourself point to murder rates, as Matt Walsh explained, you're not comparing apples to apples.
Our cities are more violent, and its because of multiculturalism. You can try and handwave and muddy the water all you want, but those are the facts.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:18 pm to scrooster
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It was accelerated under Obama into 4th gear. Biden (immigration) kicked it into 5th gear.
It accelerated under GWB and continued (including Obama) until Trump's Covid spending sent it into overdrive (which Biden continued)
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:20 pm to Azkiger
Me:
You:
You seem confused.
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Even this doesn't work because you're ignoring the post 1995 data of crime in multicultural hubs decreasing dramatically
You:
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I guess you'd be right if I stated that
race was the only factor that determined criminality.
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Our cities are more violent, and its because of multiculturalism
You seem confused.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
Not at all. There are many major and minor contributors to criminality.
We can lay the increase of violence that's already been highlighted in this thread at the feet of multiculturalism.
If you want to play the progressive "not all" game and hang your hat on the increase in violence not being exactly 100% due to multiculturalism, fine. DO a victory lap.
We've still identified an overwhelmingly significant problem, and we either address it or, in several decades, we don't have a country anymore.
We can lay the increase of violence that's already been highlighted in this thread at the feet of multiculturalism.
If you want to play the progressive "not all" game and hang your hat on the increase in violence not being exactly 100% due to multiculturalism, fine. DO a victory lap.
We've still identified an overwhelmingly significant problem, and we either address it or, in several decades, we don't have a country anymore.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:27 pm to SlowFlowPro
We aborted criminals before they were born
Freakanomics
Freakanomics
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:27 pm to Azkiger
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We can lay the increase of violence that's already been highlighted in this thread at the feet of multiculturalism.
Is the US more or less multicultural today compared to 1975?
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If you want to play the progressive "not all" game and hang your hat on the increase in violence not being exactly 100% due to multiculturalism, fine. DO a victory lap.
We've still identified an overwhelmingly significant problem, and we either address it or, in several decades, we don't have a country anymore.
Is the US more or less multicultural today compared to 1985?
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:31 pm to sparkinator
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We aborted criminals before they were born
Freakanomics
That's not entirely correct
Also abortion rates have cratered for long enough for a generation and a half of unaborted lower SES children to reverse that trend, if that was the primary cause. We're in about year 30 of the era of pathological decline
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:53 pm to sparkinator
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We aborted criminals before they were born Freakanomics
Was coming to post this.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:53 pm to Azkiger
“Our cities are more violent, and it’s because of multiculturalism. You can try and handwave and muddy the water all you want, but those are the facts.”
I just don’t see the facts to support this unless you’re pointing to a historical trend from roughly 1966 through 1996. But you would still need to account for the decline thereafter. I am not committed to th numbers supporting any particular agenda, but it sounds like you are.
I just don’t see the facts to support this unless you’re pointing to a historical trend from roughly 1966 through 1996. But you would still need to account for the decline thereafter. I am not committed to th numbers supporting any particular agenda, but it sounds like you are.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:55 pm to Azkiger
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We can lay the increase of violence that's already been highlighted in this thread at the feet of multiculturalism.
I don't think it's multiculturalism... but an indifference to justice in sacrifice to "equity".
People do shite because they can. You let individuals get away with shenanigans, then shenanigans galore you will have.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 10:58 pm to N.O. via West-Cal
Like I told Slow, there are major and minor factors that can both increase and decrease criminality. There are factors that can decrease criminality, like longer prison sentences (which cut down on re-offenses).
But a massive factor is multiculturalism. The stats do not lie. Racial crime statistics are what they are. It's no wonder the less white a city becomes, the more violent it becomes.
The Matt Walsh video just highlights why you shouldn't just look at the murder rates and go off that.
But a massive factor is multiculturalism. The stats do not lie. Racial crime statistics are what they are. It's no wonder the less white a city becomes, the more violent it becomes.
The Matt Walsh video just highlights why you shouldn't just look at the murder rates and go off that.
Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:00 pm to SallysHuman
If multiculturalism worked, why would you need to try and tip the scales in order to achieve "equity"?
Posted on 4/6/26 at 11:04 pm to Azkiger
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If multiculturalism worked, why would you need to try and tip the scales in order to achieve "equity"?
shite.
You got me.
I need to go rethink my argument.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:29 am to Azkiger
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More multicultural.
From 1965 to 1995 there was barely an increase in multiculturalism. During this time period, there was an insane increase in crime.
From 1995 to 2025 there was a huge increase in multiculturalism. During this time., there was an insane decrease in crime.
How can you argue that multiculturalism is leading to increased crime rates?
Please note, black people do not count as multicultural variables because the ancestors of the people who who live here today largely came here hundreds of years ago. There was no Force or change in society that led to an import of these people from the '60s onward.
Posted on 4/7/26 at 8:30 am to Azkiger
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But a massive factor is multiculturalism. The stats do not lie.
The stats do not lie and they do not support your argument about multiculturalism leading to an increase in crime. That's the problem with your argument. Is that you're ignoring the actual facts and using very weird framing to create a dishonest point.
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