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re: Massie loyalists will try to argue against this but, it's the truth.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 8:11 am to tigrewoulds21
Posted on 5/15/26 at 8:11 am to tigrewoulds21
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It's impossible for somebody like Massie to push small government policies when the establishment Republicans don't actually want it and won't support it.
That's because, as noble as the small government dream may be ... it's delusional. Shrinking the gov and getting rid of the corruption and bloat is the best we can hope for. And even then ... it'll never last. It never does. If history has taught us anything it is that all civilizations always self destruct.
Massie might preach and push small government but that's just his shtick, it's not genuine. He's not that dumb. What he does is no different than the communist/socialist shtick ... it's just on the opposite end of the spectrum. He's a contrarian attention hooer.
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Posted on 5/15/26 at 8:42 am to scrooster
He so pro small govt he went and got a random woman from Florida a job to be a staffer for an Indiana representative 
Posted on 5/15/26 at 8:49 am to DeBoar
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He so pro small govt he went and got a random woman from Florida a job to be a staffer for an Indiana representative
.... random woman, who he was porking. Exactly.
We paid for that and no telling what else.
The whole self sustained solar cow farm thing is a scam as well.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 8:51 am to scrooster
Massie is the overwhelming crowd favorite of the democrats.
They love him.
They love him.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 8:51 am to Penrod
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Both statements by you in posts separated by minutes.
Yes, and obviously you have reading comp issues. Its correct.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 8:52 am to scrooster
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That's because, as noble as the small government dream may be ... it's delusional.
Because voters like you prefer security to freedom
Posted on 5/15/26 at 8:53 am to Penrod
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This seems to contracdict this…
Then read them again. Both statements are in agreement.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 9:17 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Because voters like you prefer security to freedom
Because it's delusional ... as are you.
I've been all over this world .... we are, by far, the freeist society on earth, of our size and complexity. It's the Marxo-Commies who want to take away our freedoms ... and Massie sides with them too often, is endorsed by too many of them, is taking money from too many of them ... and is now married to one of them.
Roger, that'll be the only response that you receive from me on this topic.
This post was edited on 5/15/26 at 9:26 am
Posted on 5/15/26 at 9:20 am to scrooster
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Because it's delusional
Yes, being anti war like MAGA was just a few months ago is delusional.
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Because it's delusional ... as are you. I've served my country, violently at times. I worked hard my entire life for the security and stability of my family and myself.
Then you should support conservatives, and not left leaning populists.
MAGA is a collectivist movement
This post was edited on 5/15/26 at 9:21 am
Posted on 5/15/26 at 9:29 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:They are not.
Both statements are in agreement.
But your response is a distraction from the real point.
Given the 2020 economic shutdowns, there was a binary option, either print money or go into depression. That's it. You opine we should have chosen the latter. A depression would have been far more costly than the $3T in expenditures.
That was not the equation in 2021 when an additional $2T was dumped into a reopened economy with horrendous demand-supply mismatches already in play.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 9:32 am to NC_Tigah
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hey are not.
There's that reading comp again. Explain the discrepency
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You cant put 5t out there, then experience supply shocks and supply chain issues, without bad inflation.
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We would have had the inflation had the economy opened 4 months earlier, or later, and regardless of who the POTUS was.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 9:44 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:The Beijing summit was originally scheduled for March 31 – April 2, 2026. It was postponed by Trump d/t the Iran war. Prior to that, rumors swirled that Xi intended to announce to Trump, and then to the public that “China will reunify with Taiwan,” basically a proclamation China would take Taiwan.
Yes, being anti war like MAGA was just a few months ago is delusional.
As it turns out, Xi did not go there.
It would appear something changed. We can speculate on what that "something" was. IMO, it was related to Iran.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 9:46 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:There were no supply shocks pertinent to 2020. Hence, the fact you're deflecting ... again.
You cant put 5t out there, then experience supply shocks and supply chain issues, without bad inflation.
This post was edited on 5/15/26 at 9:47 am
Posted on 5/15/26 at 9:49 am to NC_Tigah
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There were no supply shocks pertinent to 2020. Hence, the fact you're deflecting ... again.
Its almost like you arent reading what I type.
Yes, there were supply shocks pertinent to 2020. Caused by massive infusion of cash, and empty supply chains.
Without the cash and shutdowns, there is no supply chain disruption. It was doomed to happen on re-opening.
This post was edited on 5/15/26 at 9:50 am
Posted on 5/15/26 at 9:53 am to NC_Tigah
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Given the 2020 economic shutdowns, there was a binary option, either print money or go into depression. That's it. You opine we should have chosen the latter. A depression would have been far more costly than the $3T in expenditures.
That was not the equation in 2021 when an additional $2T was dumped into a reopened economy with horrendous demand-supply mismatches already in play.
This is a perfect summary.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:A collapse in demand is not a “supply shock.”
Yes, there were supply shocks pertinent to 2020. Caused by massive infusion of cash, and empty supply chains.
The "shock" comes from massive supply-demand mismatch.
The latter was not a 2020 component. It was a 2021 issue.
quote:Totally different issue. You argue those were not necessary. Regardless, they occurred. It is a separate subject and a separate debate.
Without the shutdowns
The economic question, the question we are addressing, is as to what follow-up response should have been.
quote:Not anywhere near the levels of supply chain disruption we actually experienced.
supply chain disruption ... was doomed to happen on re-opening.
This post was edited on 5/15/26 at 10:05 am
Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:05 am to NC_Tigah
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A collapse in demand is not a “supply shock.”
You clearly dont understand cause/effect, which is why youre stuck in this linear thinking.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:21 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I understand it perfectly Rog.
You clearly dont understand cause/effect
E.g., Trump says "the sky is blue" which triggers your TDS-respondent screech "NOT AT NIGHT, IT ISN'T ! ! !"
That is cause (DJT saying anything) and effect (TDS-driven response).
The problem here is we are discussing economics, which you don't seem to understand.
Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:23 am to NC_Tigah
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I understand it perfectly Rog.
You absolutely do not.
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Stimulus money boosted inflation by 2.6%
Posted on 5/15/26 at 10:27 am to NC_Tigah
quote:NAILED IT to a tee.
But your response is a distraction from the real point.
Given the 2020 economic shutdowns, there was a binary option, either print money or go into depression. That's it. You opine we should have chosen the latter. A depression would have been far more costly than the $3T in expenditures.
That was not the equation in 2021 when an additional $2T was dumped into a reopened economy with horrendous demand-supply mismatches already in play.
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