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re: Massie loyalists will try to argue against this but, it's the truth.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 7:32 am to Penrod
Posted on 5/11/26 at 7:32 am to Penrod
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Some emergency spending is necessary, though. I don’t think we ever should have shut down our economy for covid. I think, and thought at the time, that it was stupid. But my opinion was in the minority. And given that we shut down, we had to stimulate.
My thoughts at the time was that this decision shouldnt be made without a few competent economists on the panel. Of course doctors will recommend shutting it all down, they probably cant foresee the economic tradeoffs.
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Posted on 5/11/26 at 7:34 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Candidly I think John Thune, Cassidy, Cornyn, or Mitt Romney would be a gargantuan improvement over Massie. You have no clue, so I'll explain that further. IMO, those are 4 of the worst GOP'ers in politics right now. Massie is awful. He's voting around 77% with the GOP, and 23% with AOC on most of the critical issues.
you think Gallrein winning will be some kind of victory for Trump.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 7:35 am to NC_Tigah
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Massie is awful. He's voting around 77% with the GOP, and 23% with AOC on most of the critical issues.
How does his voting history consistently rate so well in conservative and freedom indexes?
Posted on 5/11/26 at 7:35 am to SDVTiger
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Because he wins
He won because he was perceived as an outsider.
He won because the alternatives were beyond what normal Americans could tolerate.
He won because white males were tired of being labeled misogynist and racist.
He won because young voters perceived their future being mortgaged by an overspending government.
He won because Americans were tired of losing jobs to foreigners.
He won because of decades of foreign conflicts.
He won because more blacks and Hispanics recognized that the democratic party have used them for votes only and that the party really does not care about them.
He won because most Americans perceived him to be unjustly treated by the deep state.
He won because the things he promised seemed much better than the things that were.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 7:37 am to NC_Tigah
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Candidly I think John Thune, Cassidy, Cornyn, or Mitt Romney would be a gargantuan improvement over Massie.
Which shows how far you've slid left on the spectrum. This validates my ideas that MAGA is a Trojan horse designed to overturn the Republican party and move it to the center.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 7:40 am to SDVTiger
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Because he wins
Well, you set yourself up for that one
And of course he beat two horrible women
Posted on 5/11/26 at 7:42 am to NC_Tigah
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Massie is awful. He's voting around 77% with the GOP,
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Summary: Across recent scoring systems, Thomas Massie votes with Republicans over 90% of the time, with Heritage Action’s 117th Congress score at 96% and GOP Platform’s 2024 score at 91%, indicating near-total alignment with the Republican Party.
tInfluencers are lying to you.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 7:49 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Declaring a national emergency was giving the green light for states to shut down businesses and live on federal money.
Trump had to declare a national emergency. That’s what gave him the powers to shut down international trips, etc. And if you remember, he was criticized by the very democrats who later criticized him for not doing enough.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 7:50 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Of course doctors will recommend shutting it all down, they probably cant foresee the economic tradeoffs.
Exactly!
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:05 am to Flats
quote:Positive.
You sure? This is from an article dated April 22.
Kemp stuck his foot so far in his mouth regarding CV19 that people thought he had a tail.
After Kemp drawled, "Findin' out that this virus is now transmittin' before people see signs... well, we didn't know that 'til the last 24 hours" (asymptomatic transmissibility had actually been common knowledge for two months), basically Kemp was radioactive on the subject. By that time, Trump had already been successfully tagged with the injecting bleach lies. He could not afford to lock arms with someone as blatantly stupid as Kemp came across.
The biggest mistake Trump made, and he made many, was trusting the """science""" for 5-6 mos, as he was being pushed to do. In reality the """science""" was nothing of the sort. I still suspect nefarious operations at the CDC in Jan-Feb were core to the epidemiologic explosion and "15 days to stop the spread." The CDC actions also effectively took Redfield out as a Trump advisor, and elevated the NIH/Fauci.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:11 am to NC_Tigah
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Positive.
Ok, I guess I'm missing something. This was your claim:
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By late March - early April 2020, Trump argued, "We have to reopen the economy."
I provided evidence to the contrary and it sounds like you're saying "well, yeah, but it was justified because Kemp was being stupid". Is this another case of Trump just saying enough stuff that one can find evidence of him being on both sides of an issue?
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:14 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Projection is a thing, Rog. But normally one knows he's doing it.
tInfluencers are lying to you.
quote:Got it?
He has voted against a majority of Republicans on 73 occasions or 22.3% of the time in the 119th Congress and was just one of two Republicans to oppose the final passage of Trump’s One Big Beautiful Bill Act.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:20 am to Flats
quote:Trump Sets Easter Goal For Reopening American Economy -- March 24, 2020
By late March - early April 2020, Trump argued, "We have to reopen the economy."
Trump says he’ll reopen the economy “based on a lot of facts and a lot of instincts” -- Apr 12, 2020
I could list about 100 other citations in late March - early April 2020.
I told you why he responded to Kemp the way he did.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:21 am to NC_Tigah
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]In the 119th Congress, he has voted against the Republican majority ~22% of the time (73 votes), typically on fiscal matters like omnibus spending, debt increases, or foreign aid—prioritizing limited government and deficit reduction over party unity.
gIn the 119th Congress, he has voted against the Republican majority ~22% of the time (73 votes), typically on fiscal matters like omnibus spending, debt increases, or foreign aid—prioritizing limited government and deficit reduction over party unity[/quote]
For his career, he votes with Republicans between 89%-91% of the time.
This administration isnt conservative, good for Massie. Trump sure isnt standing up for fiscal conservatives.
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 8:25 am
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:24 am to NC_Tigah
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I told you why he responded to Kemp the way he did.
But he still said it.
If your defense is that Trump said "open the economy" and "don't open the economy" as the mood hit him, then I don't disagree.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:33 am to RogerTheShrubber
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quote:Summary: Across recent scoring systems, Thomas Massie votes with Republicans over 90% of the time, with Heritage Action’s 117th Congress score at 96% and GOP Platform’s 2024 score at 91%, indicating near-total alignment with the Republican Party.quote:
tInfluencers are lying to you.
Good job sharing his 2024 score in your rebuttal to a guy who was talking about his current voting percentage for this Congress. Even better you accuse him of people lying to him
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:36 am to DeBoar
Wrong as usual. He/She said nothing ab out this term in the post I responded to...
When you find the time window in his statement, let me know.
quote:
Massie is awful. He's voting around 77% with the GOP, and 23% with AOC on most of the critical issues.
When you find the time window in his statement, let me know.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:40 am to RogerTheShrubber
It doesn’t matter you shared a percentage that was from 2 years ago when Trump wasn’t in office. The premise is that his voting percentage has tanked each time Trump has been in office. You can’t say he votes 98% of the time when he isn’t. You also had a smart arse reply in another repost thinking it’s funny he doesn’t support Trump because Trump isn’t conservative.
quote:
This administration isnt conservative, good for Massie. Trump sure isnt standing up for fiscal conservatives.
This post was edited on 5/11/26 at 8:42 am
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:43 am to DeBoar
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It doesn’t matter you shared a percentage that was from 2 years ago when Trump wasn’t in office
JFC, youre dumb MoT.
Youre melting because you cant read and misinterpret his post.
Posted on 5/11/26 at 8:44 am to RogerTheShrubber
Yeah rely on insults when your shite gets called out.
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