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re: Mass deportation really would not be that difficult

Posted on 3/9/24 at 4:22 pm to
Posted by SixthAndBarone
Member since Jan 2019
8223 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 4:22 pm to
What do you do when Venezuela denies them access when they come back? Say a plane of illegals is refused to land or they are refused to unload once they land.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 4:24 pm to
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Require citizenship to drive


You might be surprised just how many legal residents we have driving without a valid and up-to-date driver's license

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Cut all freebies, housing, food stamps, and and access to Healthcare, etc to illegals


That's removing one of the incentives for them to come in the first place which is of course what should have been done decades ago.

Mass deportation is not going to be easy
Posted by bird35
Georgia
Member since Sep 2012
12202 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 4:25 pm to
Just stop paying them for being here. And millions will go home.

Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
11250 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 4:25 pm to
Here is my border security strategy. There is a lengthy pdf that goes over this in more detail at this link: LINK

The pdf mentioned above is an EO I will sign on day 1.

This is a national emergency. We are being invaded at the border and this is an existential threat to the nation.

- 500k Troops at the border. The entire border covered with boots on the ground. Engineer and similar units will put obstacles in place, and build a wall.
Treated as a combat deployment. Combat pay, tax free etc for military and Border Patrol.
- Border secured. Nothing but commerce at ports of entry can enter the country.
- All federal money to illegals cut off. Remittances taxed at 50%. EO ending anchor babies.
- Those that self-deport get money as they cross back into Mexico. All must leave. No contrived status ploys from Biden administration will be honored.
- Cartels designated as terrorist organizations. China a state sponsor of terrorism and hostile nation. China must pay for each student studying in the US. $500k per semester, paid in silver or gold. No Chinese purchases of land or anything else related to commerce. China owes us $25T for COVID and intellectual property theft. All Chinese assets in the US reviewed for national security relevance. No travel from China entering the US, because China can't be trusted to handle pathogens and not unleash them on the world.
- No military action launched into Mexico.
- World Health Organization is an arm of the Chinese government. Gets same designation as China. No funding of the WHO. US will sever all ties and anyone connected to the WHO will be looked at for possible ties to the WHO's nefarious mission.
- United Nations cut off from all funding. They contribute to the border invasion. Seizing their building and assets in the US, and expelling every UN member.
- World Economic Forum. Everything creating immigration pressure is pushed by them. Also they stand in direct opposition to everything our nation stands for. They are as great a threat as any nation state could be. Designation as terrorist org and hostile nation. I will not allow the WEF to exist.
- Flores loophole ignored. It's unconstitutional.
- E-verify mandatory. Visa overstays have to go. Any nation that refuses to help re-patriate their citizens gets no aid and no visas.
- If Congress passes amnesty I will ignore it. It's unconstitutional. Amnesty is an overt violation of constitutional provisions to safeguard the nation, rewards / incentivizes / invites lawless behavior. It is tantamount to national suicide and Congress does not have that authority.
- No military service in exchange for citizenship, for anyone that entered service during the Biden administration. Too much of a security risk. Those personnel will be separated.
- Congress must fund national security. If they refuse, the President is mandated to declare an emergency and take whatever steps are necessary to protect and preserve the Constitution and the nation.
- We are in dangerous times. We are being invaded. This is a concerted effort to destroy the country. We must abandon the two parties and their programmed division of the nation and the People. If we fail to come together, we will be destroyed. And, we must be prepared for what the power brokers will do - they will bring death, destruction, and chaos to us here in the US in order to coerce us into bending to their will. We must not trade freedom for security. Together we are unstoppable as a nation.

Costs and Savings
Let's assume 600k people involved in this effort. To give them combat pay and tax free status, that will cost us a bit less than $20B per year, but let's round it to $20B.
We will spend about $10B per year on equipment like optics, 4-wheelers etc. Let's work on a 4yr plan, so that's $40B. Probably less but let's say $40B.

$300 per person on a bus, 30M people over the span of 4 years, let's round that to $10B for transport to a holding area prior to self-deportation.
Give $2000 in pesos to each person that self-deports, and if we get 30M to self-deport, that's $60B.

We spend, annually, about $75B on illegals to educate them, $40B to provide healthcare for them, $15B for welfare. That's $130B each year. This money is immediately halted when I take office.

Over 4 years that would save us $520B.
It would cost us $80B for personnel to seal the border. $40B for materiel support to those people, $70B in deportation costs (transport and cash incentive). That's $190B, let's round that to $200B.

We now have a net savings in four years of $320B.

What if we spent $50B over 4 years to build factories and similar items to provide employment for those self-deporting?

That makes our 4yr savings $270B, rather than $320B.

If we spend $30B per year to subsidize these factories / businesses at the border, we still save $50B per year in savings compared to current spending, because it would cost us about $50B each year for a border force, but we'd be saving $130B by terminating aid to illegals. 130-50=80-30=50.

After five years we have a completely locked down border, all illegals gone, increased economic activity for these people in Mexico, and we save a total of $320B.
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
6877 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 4:34 pm to
You don’t need all that.

90 days to self deport. Those who do can take all their wealth and assets with them. After 90 days anyone who doesn’t self deport forfeit all assets and are deported.

End birthright citizenship. It’s an archaic system of which only 18 countries on planet earth still offer.

End all entitlements and handouts to illegals and punish NGO’s who assist Illegals

They aren’t coming here to work in 2024. They are coming for the massive handouts and freebies. It’s not 1985 anymore. Those 3 steps would essentially neuter Illegal Immigration.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
45160 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 4:44 pm to
Stop the game show prizes and they would leave on their own.
Posted by TheFonz
Somewhere in Louisiana
Member since Jul 2016
20418 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 5:37 pm to
Sweep the sugar off the counter and the ants will go away.
Posted by Gifman
by the mountains
Member since Jan 2021
9372 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 6:09 pm to
Tax remittances heavily and just enforce laws on the books and these frickers will walk back voluntarily
Posted by Espritdescorps
Member since Nov 2020
1238 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 9:58 pm to
You have my vote burger
Posted by Hennigan
Member since Jan 2020
988 posts
Posted on 3/9/24 at 11:56 pm to
No citizenship for illegals.
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
Member since Oct 2004
57261 posts
Posted on 3/10/24 at 6:40 am to
End birthright citizenship for illegals; they are not included in the 14th Amendment.
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