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Martha McSally

Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:48 am
Posted by Wednesday
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:48 am
Pisses me off.

She’s godawful. She’s so freaking milquetoast and awful. She’s John McCain in drag without the clout. She makes me just as pissed off at the GOPe as Romney. She’s freaking useless.

She lost to Sinema bc she’s terrible, and bc she was one of the few Rs who ran for Senate in 2018 that campaigned against Trump. She has zero charisma and even fewer independent or unique ideas. And the dumbfux in Arizona gave her a seat Bc they felt sorry for her. I will never understand people who call themselves Republicans in Arizona; and I especially don’t understand NeverTrumpers.

Prediction: Milquetoast McSally is going to be the reason the Rs lose the Senate if they do.

Questions:

1-How does Trump win Az with McSally’s lame arse on the ballot?

2- is there a chance independents split their vote btwn the astronaut whose political experience is being married to Gabby Giffords and Trump?

3- Does Trump actually campaign for MM, or is she such a snooze fest loser that he keeps his powder dry for James in Michigan?
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:52 am to
quote:

1-How does Trump win Az with McSally’s lame arse on the ballot?

He needs to have a "come to Jesus" meeting with her with Rand and Cruz in attendance

quote:

2- is there a chance independents split their vote btwn the astronaut whose political experience is being married to Gabby Giffords and Trump?

A chance yes but who knows how much

quote:

3- Does Trump actually campaign for MM, or is she such a snooze fest loser that he keeps his powder dry for James in Michigan?

He has to

Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:55 am to
must be a shallow bench in AZ
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
11590 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:57 am to
I know this is the narrative. She's actually been rated as one of the most effective members of congress. She ranks in the top of actually getting bills to the floor and passed. She won 2 terms in the US House in a purple district that flipped back to blue when she gave it up. She lost to Sinema only after ballot harvesting in a blue wave election. She was leading on election day. The last polls except the ridiculous one showing Trump down by 10 have had her within 5 points and the polls are typically using DEM +3. Even in 2018 with the blue wave, it was R +3 in Arizona. If you follow her social media, she has been out every single day actually going door to door in all parts of the state. I'm not saying she is the most dynamic person, but she has been at least working for votes this time.
This post was edited on 9/15/20 at 10:00 am
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 9/15/20 at 9:58 am to
The AZ RNC chair needs to be out of a job
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15417 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 10:00 am to
I’m sure she’s lovely.

I don’t blame her.

I blame the GOPe in Arizona that McCain runs basically from the grave. The logic behind appointing a person who is fresh off of losing a close election in a must win state for President is nonexistent. It’s just unadulterated hubris.
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
11590 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 10:04 am to
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The logic behind appointing a person who is fresh off of losing a close election in a must win state for President is nonexistent. It’s just unadulterated hubris.


Point taken...but I think the thought was that she was robbed by the DEM machine in Maricopa county who kept finding votes. With Trump on the ticket they felt pretty good about the chances. I think they have been sleeping on the fact that AZ was turning purple much faster than they realized plus there are many McCain/Flake republicans who are not really "loyal" to the party.
Posted by Jspaspa3303
Member since Jun 2020
2387 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 10:05 am to
I think he campaigns for her. I think he knows the alternative is much worse . However I think he understands she needs to win as sucky as she is . Good thing for her is , her election is in the smae day as the presidential election . If AZ goes red, which it should then I think she wins .
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 10:13 am to
bUT sHE wUz An a-10 pILoT!!!!!!!!
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118819 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 10:15 am to
There is a pretty good shot that Trump loses AZ but picks up MN. However in the end, I think Trump gets both.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 10:16 am to
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1-How does Trump win Az with McSally’s lame arse on the ballot?



fricking serious?

Ducey won by 11 points in 2018 when mcsally lost!

Trump can still win AZ - in fact that's the only chance mssally has but she won't win. She is a terrible candidate.
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146831 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 10:18 am to
McSally has to win for the majority. The same for Thom Tillis in NC. Both are POS but it is all we got.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 10:22 am to
Yea both races scare me but I already chocked your mcsally losing.

Tillis could very well lose even with trump winning. See 2016 when trump won by 4 points but Cooper (D) beat the incumbent Governor.


I still think Tillis pulls it out when trump wins N.C.

We have God awful candidates though. Tillis and Burr in N.C. suck - mcsally sucks.

Unfortunately John James is running in the wrong state. He would win either of those races easily.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118819 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 10:26 am to
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fricking serious?

Ducey won by 11 points in 2018 when mcsally lost!

Trump can still win AZ - in fact that's the only chance mssally has but she won't win. She is a terrible candidate.




It's amazing that Ducey won by 11 but McSally could not win out right. But I have to admit Kyrsten Sinema is probably the most conservative Democrat senator so it made it easier for moderate Republicans to cross over and vote for Sinema. I think she attracted many moderate suburban moms. I just hate the fact that these moderate Republicans can't see the bigger picture.
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
34762 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 10:27 am to
Arizona had Jeff Flake and John McCain as their GOP senators at the same time


It is amazing how awful the candidates they turn out
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118819 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 10:30 am to
The GOP will keep the senate even if McSally loses.

Of the "toss-ups" according to RCP, Perdue, Ernst and Daines are not losing and Collins and Tillis are likely.
Posted by lsursb
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
11590 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 10:37 am to
quote:

McSally has to win for the majority. The same for Thom Tillis in NC. Both are POS but it is all we got.


Keep an eye on NM. It's an open seat with the DEM retiring. Mark Ronchetti, the GOP candidate has cut the lead from 19 to 9 in the latest poll. He's a former TV news/weatherman and is very good on camera. It would be a huge upset, but he's at least gaining some traction and getting a little publicity. I think Montana and Iowa are safe. Perdue will win in GA and I have a hard time believing Collins will lose in Maine. She detroyed her opponent in the debate and made her look completely uninformed but the national DEMs are really out to get her. I think GOP holds on to control of senate by at least 1 or 2.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13085 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 10:44 am to
Biden will carry AZ by 7% and Kelly will win that Senate seat by more than 7%. Arizona is not a Red state anymore.

Assuming Jones loses in AL, Dems have to turn 4 seats to get to 51. Dems WILL flip Arizona, Colorado, AND Maine for sure. Best shots to get to 51: North Carolina and Montana. Cunningham is ahead in almost every nonpartisan poll in NC and Bulloch is close behind Daines in Montana.

I'll stick to my prediction of Dems 51-49 on Jan 4, 2021.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118819 posts
Posted on 9/15/20 at 10:49 am to
John James has a real good shot at flipping Michigan for the GOP too.
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