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Marine and Iraq War Vet: "We created ISIS, we're the source of this violence & chaos"

Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:09 am
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
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Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:09 am
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Former US marine has made the revelation that he helped create ISIS.

He is absolutely correct. Dont see why so many are so blind. The US has a history of creating a problem just so they can then create a solution to it.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:14 am to
Dude you seem very upset. Let me ask you a question. Was 9-11 an inside job?
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:20 am to
No shite. The Iraq War destabilized that region of the Middle East, leaving room for ISIS to grow and prosper. It's not our fault that happened though, we removed the head and the evil in that region just sprung up another head. But we should learn from our mistake and stop destabilizing foreign governments
This post was edited on 4/10/17 at 6:21 am
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:22 am to
Obama and his people created ISIS, remember him?
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14839 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:25 am to
Wasn't Iraq originally carved out by the English, French, and Russians?
Posted by goldennugget
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Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:32 am to
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Was 9-11 an inside job?


Depends on what you mean by inside job

But I definitely think the CIA was involved with Saudi Arabia and Israel
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:33 am to
I hate pussy logic like this.

Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:33 am to
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Depends on what you mean by inside job

Oh do tell.
Posted by goldennugget
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Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:36 am to
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Oh do tell.



9/11 was arranged as the perfect justification to be at war in the middle east for the next 100 years. An official event to kick off the "war on terror", a war that can never be won, so it will always be ongoing

Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14839 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:36 am to
What is my pussy logic? I'm only pointing out that the issues in that region pre date US involvement. FTR, it pre dates post WWI carve outs...I just didn't take it there. So again, what pussy logic are you referring to?
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:38 am to
Too bad he's at least partly full of shite.
Posted by Knight of Old
New Hampshire
Member since Jul 2007
10996 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:42 am to
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he US has a history of creating a problem just so they can then create a solution to it.


Yeah, member that time when the US helped the Egyptians destroy Judah and enslave the Hebrews?

Or that time the US helped the Assyrians destroy Babylon?

And that other time when the US helped Nebuchadnezzer reestablish Babylonia and destroy Jerusalem?

And after that when the US helped Jesus of Nazareth start his movement?

And after that when the US helped Muhammad get born and then establish Islam?

And then that time when the US got the Ottoman Empire up and running so the European Christians could go get in a fight with them?

I guess I see your point: the entirety of the mess in the middle east really deserves to be laid at the door step of the good ol' US of A...
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68392 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:43 am to
Are you suggesting that save for the cia or some other direct goading/planning by the US, Islam's radicals would not be committing acts of terrorism against the West?
Posted by navy
Parts Unknown, LA
Member since Sep 2010
29054 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:45 am to
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What is my pussy logic?



Referring to the OP and the "Marine."


Arguing that US involvement made matters worse is one thing.


Arguing that the US is responsible for any or all of the vile shite that ISIS does ... frick that.


People, and even animal excrement like ISIS, are responsible for their own actions.
Posted by MullenBoys
In the minds of Ole Miss fans
Member since Apr 2014
13673 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:46 am to
quote:

9/11 was arranged as the perfect justification to be at war in the middle east for the next 100 years. An official event to kick off the "war on terror", a war that can never be won, so it will always be ongoing


Mistakes are always made in war not sure how things shift. But are you telling me we let 3,000 people die for the sake of getting into war?

There is an old saying, if two people know a secret, it's not a secret.

You telling me that this was a giganitic conspiracy killing 3K Americans to get into a war? Have your head examined! And don't bother me with so called "facts" that #1 they commited suicide as CIA agents. #2 they exploded shite timed with the aircraft to bring the buildings down. #3 it was a war to jack up stocks for shareholders who had investments in the companies who manufacture millitary hardware.

We all know about the bullshite rackets companies fleece us overcharging for millitary shite but don't tell me they wanted 3K Americans dead to get it. You are asking a lot of people to be involved and ok with it. bullshite.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14839 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:47 am to
Gotcha. I misunderstood. Sorry.

Agree. We can certainly debate whether US involvement exacerbated the situation, but the US is hardly the root cause of the cluster in that region of the world.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68392 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:52 am to
Yep, that's what he's telling you. No matter how much that belief of his defies logic, he's going to cling to it because it makes him unique, one of those who know the "truth." That an empowering thing when one feels unanchored in life.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:54 am to
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Mistakes are always made in war not sure how things shift. But are you telling me we let 3,000 people die for the sake of getting into war?



you think the powers that be and the NWO give a shite about 3000 dead people

"One death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic"
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
50178 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:55 am to
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Obama and his people created ISIS, remember him?


Against the advice of his military advisers...don't forget that part.
Posted by goldennugget
Hating Masks
Member since Jul 2013
24514 posts
Posted on 4/10/17 at 6:55 am to
quote:

Are you suggesting that save for the cia or some other direct goading/planning by the US, Islam's radicals would not be committing acts of terrorism against the West?



There would be lone wolfs but it would be no different than the crazy school shooter or non terrorist mass murderer.

Our involvement in the middle east increases the frequency of said attacks
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