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Many City's Removing Flock Cameras are Actually just Replacing them with Another Brand

Posted on 9/2/26 at 12:47 pm
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
12257 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 12:47 pm
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A wave of public backlash is pulling Flock's license plate reader cameras off streets nationwide. But in many communities, surveillance isn't ending and cameras are actually just changing brands.

As cities cancel their contracts with Flock Safety, more are hiring Axon instead. They are another law enforcement technology company that installs cameras that scan and track passing vehicles much as Flock cameras do, and they lack the public attention that Flock has received over the course of the past few months.

That trend has even reached the Florida Department of Transportation. They ordered all license plate readers removed from state roads on Aug. 31, revoking permits for Flock, Axon and Motorola cameras alike and giving agencies 30 days to take them down.

Douglas County, Colo., went a different direction on the numbers. County commissioners approved a nearly $22.8 million contract with Axon that replaced the county's 50 Flock cameras with 100 Axon cameras, along with a fleet of what officials described as first responder drones.

Privacy advocates are arguing that these swap-outs do not address the main issue. Both companies build automated license plate readers that log ordinary drivers' movements. Replacing one with the other leaves that core capability intact.

The number of cameras may fall, they say, but the tracking does not stop.
https://www.military.com/communities-nationwide-tearing-down-flock-cameras-quietly-replacing-them-with-these-brands

Vanguard is heavily invested in the Axon company

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Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
99188 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 12:48 pm to
Flock CEO is retarded. He had a great thing going and instead of just merely upping security on them for abuse by dirty piglets, he did nothing.

Hope they go out of business asap.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
12257 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 12:50 pm to
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Flock CEO is retarded. He had a great thing going and instead of just merely upping security on them for abuse by dirty piglets, he did nothing.

Hope they go out of business asap.


Flock CEO Garrett Langley has his residence blurred out on google maps.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
76453 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 12:57 pm to
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As cities cancel their contracts with Flock Safety, more are hiring Axon instead.

This is gonna challenge some people.

Let's see how it plays out.
Posted by blueboy
Member since Apr 2006
67050 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:07 pm to
Called it
Posted by Matt225
St. George
Member since Dec 2019
1309 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:09 pm to
Yeah there are a hell alot more tied into police then just Flock. Plus the plate readers on most section of interstate. The mobile BR city cops ones all over BR now.
Posted by riccoar
Arkansas
Member since Mar 2006
5457 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:11 pm to
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Flock CEO Garrett Langley has his residence blurred out on google maps.


I believe anyone can request this.

The flock debate is weird in that it was never much of an issue on cameras issuing speeding tickets, running red lights, or blowing a toll booth.

Those cameras didn't just record violaters.
Posted by Bamafig
Member since Nov 2018
6931 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:20 pm to
Correct. We have to disassociate with the term “Flock camera” to a more generalized “public surveillance camera”.
Slimy politicians (an oxymoron) are strongly coming out against Flock cameras knowing good and well they will get kickbacks from installers of other similar technology.
Posted by RohanGonzales
Pronoun: Whatever
Member since Apr 2024
12795 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:21 pm to
What will the trained seals complain about next? We will have to wait for the media marching orders.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
12257 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:27 pm to
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The flock debate is weird in that it was never much of an issue on cameras issuing speeding tickets, running red lights, or blowing a toll booth.


Those have always been issued in my city.
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
38775 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 1:52 pm to
Did anyone seriously think that local law enforcement would willingly give up a tool that as side benefits allows them to violate your civil rights and act as a potential revenue enhancer?

Aside from being the clean up crew after a crime, the Sheriff's job is chief tax collector who also acts as a human warehousing specialist.
Posted by Wolfwireless
Member since Aug 2024
5828 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 3:10 pm to
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Vanguard is heavily invested in the Axon company

For those not knowing about Vanguard, they are the owners of BlackRock. Between Vanguard and BlackRock, and BlackRock's umbrella, they hold stock in a vast majority of the MSM media, and the companies owning them.
Yeah, trust monitoring to a company that who's stockholders destroy corporate business, and has an extremist woke agenda? No fricking thanks!
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
12257 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 4:26 pm to
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For those not knowing about Vanguard


quote:

President Obama holds all of his wealth in just two Vanguard funds, Vanguard 500 Index Fund where he has 3 accounts and the Vanguard FTSE Social Index Fund where he holds another 3 accounts,
Posted by brass2mouth
NOLA
Member since Jul 2007
20766 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 4:34 pm to
I wouldn’t be surprised if this outrage started due to some corporate espionage plan from Axon to get more contracts.

Their facial recognition and AI tech has been tested and developing in body cameras for the last 6+ years.
Posted by Ailsa
Member since May 2020
12257 posts
Posted on 9/2/26 at 4:51 pm to
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I wouldn’t be surprised if this outrage started due to some corporate espionage plan from Axon to get more contracts.

Their facial recognition and AI tech has been tested and developing in body cameras for the last 6+ years.


I hope they're outlawed.
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