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re: Mall of La / BR General petition for Annexation into City

Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:49 pm to
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

Councilman Ryan Heck declined to do an on camera interview about his comments.


Internet tough guy hahaha
Posted by hawkster
Member since Aug 2010
6299 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 7:01 pm to
Still the most direct and honest quote I've heard from a politician in many, many years.

quote:

"Too many people now realize that this town is run by a small group of elite businessmen who have teamed up with the Poverty Pimps that control votes with an endless supply of 5 dollar bills and even more empty promises," Heck said.


No need to explain it further to a dingbat local "journalist". The quote speaks for itself.

This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 7:57 pm
Posted by Firemedic87
Member since Mar 2014
30 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 7:01 pm to
Russian, is that you in the black not standing or clapping?
Posted by c on z
Zamunda
Member since Mar 2009
130922 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 8:28 pm to
Did anyone attend the forum?
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 8:31 pm to
Sad part is the middle class with families will eventually leave the city and parish.

Businesses will follow, but we will be stuck with a city parish government that will still suck more money out of the people left.

Baton Rouge will have a huge void in classes you will have rich people and poor people with very little middle class.

This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 8:33 pm
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 8:34 pm to
quote:

Still the most direct and honest quote I've heard from a politician in many, many years.
quote:

No need to explain it further to a dingbat local "journalist". The quote speaks for itself.


Honest? What about that shows any honesty? He provided nothing to back up any of his claims. I'd respect him if he actually called a specific politician out rather than blame all administrations of the last 100 years. He can't do that though because he'd be sued for libel because he has nothing to back it up.
This post was edited on 5/6/14 at 8:39 pm
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 8:38 pm to
quote:

Sad part is the middle class with families will eventually leave the city and parish.

Businesses will follow, but we will be stuck with a city parish government that will still suck more money out of the people left.

Baton Rouge will have a huge void in classes you will have rich people and poor people with very little middle class.


The business climate in BR is better than it's been in recent memory right now.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42643 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 8:41 pm to
Too bad we aren't growing families
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
26833 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 8:43 pm to
Agreed. I wish a petition to remove Superintendent Taylor would get started.
Posted by Lloyd Christmas
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
4289 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 8:50 pm to
quote:

Sad part is the middle class with families will eventually leave the city and parish.


Please explain why the middle class will flock back to public schools once you slap a St. George name on it. I still have not heard this from anyone.

The reason the middle class isn't attending public schools is still there.


Posted by Lloyd Christmas
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
4289 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

Agreed. I wish a petition to remove Superintendent Taylor would get started.


does not compute? according to the malcontents, if you are against them you are for the "status quo"

This doesn't sound like the talk of an elite businessman or poverty pimp
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42643 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:03 pm to
quote:

Please explain why the middle class will flock back to public schools once you slap a St. George name on it. I still have not heard this from anyone.


Elementary Watdon

In the last 40 years the number of children between th edges of. 5 and 17 have declined in EBR Parish and the reason obviously is schools.

If schools are satisfactory people will flock to those parishes as shown in Ascension and Livingston and to a smaller degree in Central and Zachary.

Now the doubting Thomases like yourself can't see a SG school district bring better than EBR schools, but I and many others can because the bar isn't that high .

Let's start growing a parish that is more than business friendly, let's grow a parish where families can comfortably grow a family too.

Losing school age children over 40 years as thd population nearly doubles says it all.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134935 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:06 pm to
quote:

More news will break tonight about the effects of the petition on annexations......

Well? We're waiting.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42643 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:07 pm to
We have a school board member in trouble, Taylor 's number two caught in the act, and Taylor himself lying.

That's three petitions right there .

But Taylor is relatively new to the party. Replacing him will just give us another hack as we have seen before .
Posted by Lloyd Christmas
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
4289 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

Elementary Watdon


But How? Changing the name of the owner of the school does not change the demographics. Demographics drive school grades. The "gangbangers" that parents of afraid of aren't going to turn into a saint just because they live in Saint George. And the plan is to bus in more low income students from one of the cities most violent neighborhoods.

I find it hard to believe your assumption that people will bail on private schools that they have been happy with for generations now for the love of their new community.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134935 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:13 pm to
quote:

They may even get them in before the 28th,anyway.

Not according to the meeting tonight.
quote:

At a community meeting at Woodlawn Baptist Church in East Baton Rouge Parish, they said it’s not clear yet whether the proposed annexation of the Mall of Louisiana and two major local hospitals would invalidate their petition and force them to start over.

But they’re focusing on getting the 18,000 signatures they need -- and getting them before the council can approve those annexations.

If the campaign can continue at the pace they’re at, committee chairman Josh Hoffpauir said they can reach that number within four to six weeks. That’s the firmest and closest timeline anyone from the campaign has put forward in recent months.

LINK
Posted by Sprocket46
Member since Apr 2014
732 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:19 pm to
quote:

Not according to the meeting tonight.


I was there.

As far as news breaking,it didn't. This was more of a cheerleader meeting than I expected, honestly.

PART of the news I was refering to was that the Mayor has moved the annexation issue up from May 28th, to now May 14th. There is a reason for this that I won't speculate on here. I don't have an answer as to why that part wasn't brought up in tonight's meeting.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42643 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:25 pm to
quote:

But How? Changing the name of the owner of the school does not change the demographics. Demographics drive school grades. The "gangbangers" that parents of afraid of aren't going to turn into a saint just because they live in Saint George. And the plan is to bus in more low income students from one of the cities most violent neighborhoods.


To start with there is a complete change of philosophy. An entirely different administration thst puts kids first and not the teacher unions.

Then you go to neighborhood schools which will require neighborhood schools and yes a capital program, but we are paying taxes for capital improvements right now . It's just the taxes go to a failed system.

Nobody believes gangbangers are going to change to Rhodes Scholars, so you get them out of the mainstream and into alternative schools and away ftom kids who are there to learn. Sort of a magnet system in reverse.

The status quo has killed families in EBR. Four thousand fewer school age kids than there was 40 years ago.

This is totally unacceptable.
Posted by Lloyd Christmas
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2005
4289 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

Replacing him will just give us another hack as we have seen before


Why?

I cannot understand why St. George can't admit that they have been just as much to blame in contributing to this problem. Even as you are touting the power of community involvement, you go right back into the apathy that brought you here.

Has Rainey really convinced everyone that they have been disenfranchised all this time?
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
42643 posts
Posted on 5/6/14 at 9:28 pm to
Anything to change the rules. I thought there was a set time for a public notice then a hearing.

Hopefully you heard wrong

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