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re: Make Mental Institutions Great Again?
Posted on 7/25/25 at 12:44 pm to 4cubbies
Posted on 7/25/25 at 12:44 pm to 4cubbies
A person I knew started using drugs as a teenager and was later diagnosed with schizophrenia. After he turned eighteen his parents could no longer make him stay in treatment. And he would go on and off treatment. He began drinking heavily and was going down fast.
His parents only option was to ask a judge to make him a ward of the state. The judge was able to require him to be in treatment. This guy has lived in a halfway house for probably thirty years and is doing as well as he can all because of the states ability to require treatment. Otherwise he would have drank himself to death.
There is absolutely a place for the power of the state in this process.
His parents only option was to ask a judge to make him a ward of the state. The judge was able to require him to be in treatment. This guy has lived in a halfway house for probably thirty years and is doing as well as he can all because of the states ability to require treatment. Otherwise he would have drank himself to death.
There is absolutely a place for the power of the state in this process.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 12:55 pm to 4cubbies
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I know you think people born with mental illness are scum but it’s not the government’s job to shield you from people that make you uncomfortable. If someone is harassing you or doing something illegal- those things are already against the law. If your local PD refuses to enforce the laws, take it up with them.
I think people should not be allowed to put up a tent or a cardboard box and live somewhere they have no right to do so. Public parks are not camping sites, storefronts are not hostels.
If someone isn’t willing to live in a place they pay for, or in a government paid for housing why should society allow these people to use property that isn’t theirs.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 1:37 pm to 4cubbies
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It’s not against to law to be homeless
Which is better for the homeless person? Being under a bridge when it's 5° or being in a climate controlled building with three meals a day and available Medical Care? If that question is hard for you to answer you're a fricking mental retard
Posted on 7/25/25 at 2:08 pm to blueboy
There is absolutely not a system in place for people with drug abuse to be compelled into treatment by a judge, that is preposterous. Even court ordered rehab isn’t mandatory and an adult can leave at any time. The only people who can be forced into a mental institution are the criminally insane and even those spaces are extremely limited
Posted on 7/25/25 at 2:18 pm to Grumpy Nemesis
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Which is better for the homeless person? Being under a bridge when it's 5° or being in a climate controlled building with three meals a day and available Medical Care? If that question is hard for you to answer you're a fricking mental retard
It doesn’t matter what I think or you think. Why do you think you can detain someone because YOU think it’s a better situation for the person?
Hey. I think you’d be more comfortable in prison so go there. And LOL that you think prisons offer adequate medical care.
This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 2:19 pm
Posted on 7/25/25 at 2:20 pm to alphaandomega
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If someone isn’t willing to live in a place they pay for, or in a government paid for housing why should society allow these people to use property that isn’t theirs.
Who owns public parks? You people think you deserve to be sheltered from everything you don’t find palatable.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 2:41 pm to 4cubbies
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It doesn’t matter what I think or you think. Why do you think you can detain someone because YOU think it’s a better situation for the person?
Mentally ill people by definition required decision making assistance. But if a perfectly same person wants to stay homeless I'm fine with that. So you want to try again to defend your stupid fricking position
Posted on 7/25/25 at 2:44 pm to 4cubbies
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Who owns public parks? You people think you deserve to be sheltered from everything you don’t find palatable.
Then why have building codes, housing codes etc if we can just put up a shanty wherever we choose?
People wouldnt mind the homeless taking over certain areas if they werent trashy shits who leave a huge public problem behind, trash and disease.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 2:49 pm to 4cubbies
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But I’m for a limited government
No, you are not. Every post you have ever made proves that.
You are just for limiting government in areas you don't like.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 3:01 pm to 4cubbies
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Who owns public parks?
Taxpayers. Do you think homeless people pay taxes?
Posted on 7/25/25 at 3:14 pm to 4cubbies
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The government should not be allowed to involuntary commit citizens at its discretion.
As a boomer, I can say from my knowledge of the streets, that the homeless of today do not represent what we saw in the 60's/70's. The homeless of today are mostly mental cases, and their conditions are magnified by high drug use and violent tendencies. These people are an open threat to normal citizens walking the streets- this never should have been allowed to occur! For the sake of the mentally ill and the innocent, a return to mental institutions is the only solution.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 3:26 pm to 4cubbies
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Here, a person can still check him/herself out of court-mandated rehab. They just have to deal with the consequences of that.
Yep. All the more reason to have jails that serve primarily as treatment facilities. The person may be sentenced to this treatment facility for 28 days or even up to a year or more. They can’t leave because it’s also a jail.
This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 3:31 pm
Posted on 7/25/25 at 3:31 pm to stout
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Taxpayers. Do you think homeless people pay taxes?
I’m sure every homeless person has paid sales tax before, which is used to support local infrastructure like public parks.
Kids don’t pay taxes and they are allowed to use parks.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 3:33 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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No, you are not. Every post you have ever made proves that.
Link of these posts of mine that supports expanded government. It should be easy since your claims every post I’ve ever made does this.
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You are just for limiting government in areas you don't like.
Speak for yourself. I don’t trust the government at any level.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 3:35 pm to 4cubbies
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Seems like a giant overreach.
Pick a side Cubbie, you are all over the map. What do you support? All you do is cherry pick items to bitch about because it's muh Trump.
No way are you not for more government, and this a solution (to a point) for mental health issues. I thought you bleeding heart liberals liked to help people. Or is that just every election cycle?
Clean up your messaging.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 3:37 pm to Rip Torn
quote:Right, they can choose to otherwise go to jail.
There is absolutely not a system in place for people with drug abuse to be compelled into treatment by a judge,
I've known multiple people who were ordered to rehab - or jail.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 3:39 pm to 4cubbies
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I’m sure every homeless person has paid sales tax before,
Paid for by food stamps and SSI
Posted on 7/25/25 at 3:40 pm to 4cubbies
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I’m sure every homeless person has paid sales tax before, which is used to support local infrastructure like public parks.
Property taxes are usually the primary source of funding, but you know that.
Even so, paying sales tax does not give them the right to set up camp/home in the park.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 3:41 pm to stout
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Taxpayers.
Unfortunately the taxpayers end up having to clean up their messes they leave behind
Posted on 7/25/25 at 3:44 pm to back9Tiger
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Pick a side Cubbie, you are all over the map. What do you support?
I support public education.
quote:I complain way more about Landry and Cantrell than Trump.
you do is cherry pick items to bitch about because it's muh Trump
quote:. I’m not for more government.
No way are you not for more government,
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and this a solution (to a point) for mental health issues
No it isn’t. There are no details and EOs can’t compel cities to transform how they deal with local social problems.
This is just more posturing.
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