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re: Make employing an illegal punishable by six months in prison first offense.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 1:54 pm to Damone
Posted on 1/28/24 at 1:54 pm to Damone
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Republicans cheered as big business crushed union labor in favor of cheap illegals
Cool. So what? No one can change past bullshite, and past bullshite shouldn’t serve as an excuse not to do the right thing now.
Do you support securing the border? Explain why one single illegal crossing should be accepted.
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Posted on 1/28/24 at 1:55 pm to Captain Rumbeard
I don’t know about jail time, but enormous fines should be levied on businesses and people who knowingly hire or retain illegal employees.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 2:25 pm to Robin Masters
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Yes, punish citizens because the feds can’t do their one job.
So that’s how you wash your hands? What a loser!!
It’s not that difficult to figure out who is here legal and who is here illegally!
If you’re a business owner it is your job to make sure everything is on the up and up!!
If you are in the path of a hurricane, are you going to wait until dear government tells you to move or are you going to have enough common sense to gtf out of the way?!
Posted on 1/28/24 at 2:29 pm to Captain Rumbeard
Your government is giving illegals $4k per month, free housing, free food, free healthcare, free transportation, etc., etc. Hell, they will probably let them vote in many places.
Why on earth would fewer jobs slow the wave of incoming illegals?
Why on earth would fewer jobs slow the wave of incoming illegals?
Posted on 1/28/24 at 2:29 pm to LaMigra
Have you guys forgotten that Elon's operation in south texas is being fined for not employing illegals
Posted on 1/28/24 at 2:32 pm to SixthAndBarone
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A company hires an illegal…who goes to jail? The owner? The CEO? The HR manager? The supervisor? The manager?
If a company makes meth illegally who goes to jail for it? Everyone involved. You don't get a do over because you were just doing what you were told. So in this case that would mean the people that hired them which would be the managers and HR people who had a hand in it. Then anyone that approved it. And if that person then got employment and their coworkers found out they were illegal, they get charged too for conspiracy.
All of them.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 2:35 pm to udtiger
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Managers/Supervisors as well as officers and board members of companies.
It should start with HR / those directly responsible for verifying legal status and proceed up the chain.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 3:40 pm to DamnGood86
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Your government is giving illegals $4k per month, free housing, free food, free healthcare, free transportation, etc., etc. Hell, they will probably let them vote in many places.
Why on earth would fewer jobs slow the wave of incoming illegals?
If illegals are all getting that sweet deal, then why do so many take low paying jobs across the US?
Posted on 1/28/24 at 3:47 pm to Captain Rumbeard
I have no problem assessing a company stiff fines for actively hiring illegals and not verifying citizenship; however, not for isolated incidents.
This post was edited on 1/28/24 at 3:50 pm
Posted on 1/28/24 at 4:01 pm to GoblinGuide
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Your government is giving illegals $4k per month, free housing, free food, free healthcare, free transportation, etc., etc. Hell, they will probably let them vote in many places.
Why on earth would fewer jobs slow the wave of incoming illegals?
If illegals are all getting that sweet deal, then why do so many take low paying jobs across the US?
They're insane! Or it's a plot to steal welfare and at the same time suppress wages in shite jobs.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 4:39 pm to Captain Rumbeard
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Make employing an illegal punishable by six months in prison first offense.
And watch this problem solve itself.
Dumb. You don't punish the citizen of the US because the Fed fails to do its job. Think about what you are saying.
The employer should not have to do the Fed's job and be the border patrol.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 4:41 pm to SCLibertarian
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"So you mean Manuel can't cut my grass or clean the pool?"
No, it means if you pay him $30 to do it without doing a back ground check or immigration check then you go to jail.
Pretty idiotic position to take. Instead, how about the Fed do its job and control the border so the everyday citizen doesn't have to do that.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 4:44 pm to dpd901
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The chief executive should be the one in jail, including if a contractor they hire employs illegals
I knew we had stupidity on this board but this is top level stupid.
You expect and employer to demand the work records and status of anyone that works for a subcontractor or contractor to that employer?
Know how I know you have never run a business or employed enough people to know this is an impossible task.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 4:46 pm to CDawson
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The chief executive should be the one in jail, including if a contractor they hire employs illegals
I knew we had stupidity on this board but this is top level stupid.
You expect and employer to demand the work records and status of anyone that works for a subcontractor or contractor to that employer?
Know how I know you have never run a business or employed enough people to know this is an impossible task.
I think every CEO of a company that has a supply chain or contracts any kind of manual labor will be in jail.
This would be a real war on fossil fuel!
This post was edited on 1/28/24 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 1/28/24 at 4:49 pm to Robin Masters
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Yes, punish citizens because the feds can’t do their one job.
You're 100% prog.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 4:53 pm to CDawson
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You expect and employer to demand the work records and status of anyone that works for a subcontractor or contractor to that employer?
Railroad contractors that employ green card holders have to supply this information to the railroad before they are allowed on the property.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 4:53 pm to Captain Rumbeard
Said long ago. Yes would help.
But big business and big gov don't want it.
But big business and big gov don't want it.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 4:56 pm to udtiger
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Needs to apply to: Managers/Supervisors as well as officers and board members of companies. If it's knowing, seize and liquidate the business.
So…my company does the following:
EVerify
Background check w/ an added SSN # check
TWIC - which is another background check
And guess what? They still get through. But let’s make businesses spend countless unproductive hours investigating their employees and still go to jail.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 4:59 pm to Captain Rumbeard
How do you punish the homeowners that employ illegals to mow their lawns, roof and paint their homes?
My guess is there are a high percentage of posters on this board that are guilty of this.
My guess is there are a high percentage of posters on this board that are guilty of this.
Posted on 1/28/24 at 5:03 pm to Captain Rumbeard
That boat sailed way back when Reagan back in the 80s was "advised" by NWO Bush trojan horse admin to allow 3 million illegals into the US.
THE time to have locked down the border was ideally 9/12.
He didn't. They didn't. And we know why not.
The "Peoples House" and DC is a giant Viper Pit of slithering slime.
THE time to have locked down the border was ideally 9/12.
He didn't. They didn't. And we know why not.
The "Peoples House" and DC is a giant Viper Pit of slithering slime.
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