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re: MAGA CAVED- Reopen Gov't for 21 days and No Declaration of Nat'l Emergency

Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:46 pm to
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:46 pm to
how has he "caved" if no deal has been met?
Posted by WONTONGO
Member since Oct 2007
4297 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:50 pm to
Actually, if the fund and extend 30 days it will take 63 days to get back to where we are now. kick the can...
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
35459 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:51 pm to
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There could be no compromise because Trump was holding 800k people hostage. Now they can actually talk and come up with something for border security that works for everyone.



Let’s go with he is holding them hostage


No hostage negotiation in history has ever gone like this
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10335 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:51 pm to
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ow has he "caved" if no deal has been met?


Shutdown is leverage.

No shutdown no leverage
Posted by Jude
Member since May 2008
387 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:52 pm to
"the queen" and her ilk are "immoral". They don't give a rat's azz about Dreamers, illegal immigrants, the 800,000 federal employees affected in the shutdown, or for that matter, any other American who doesn't walk in lock-in-step with them. Pawns one and all for the dim machine to achieve their goals. Absolutely disgusting!
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:54 pm to
30 days isn’t permanent

As much as things change from day to day cannot believe the melodrama
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56103 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:55 pm to
CNN reporting it too.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:57 pm to
quote:

Shutdown is leverage.

No shutdown no leverage



he has leverage because Pelosi said she would negotiate if he opened it back up. Now she's backed into a corner. If she still refuses the next shutdown will be solely on her.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124178 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:58 pm to
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CNN reporting it too.
They may be. They would say that regardless. The OP is factually incorrect.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:58 pm to
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he has leverage because Pelosi said she would negotiate if he opened it back up. Now she's backed into a corner. If she still refuses the next shutdown will be solely on her.


She will offer him $11.4 for border security and zero for the wall. She is giving him way more on security, just nothing for the wall.
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:59 pm to
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he has leverage because Pelosi said she would negotiate if he opened it back up. Now she's backed into a corner. If she still refuses the next shutdown will be solely on her.

Trump should be commended for doing the right thing here

He knows this is the correct chess move
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
14032 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 12:59 pm to
So this whole thing is about not letting Trump get a campaign promise? Got it.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:00 pm to
I'm on CSPAN now. Bunch of people standing around the Rose Garden looking cold.

I'll be somebody is retrading the deal right now.
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:01 pm to
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So this whole thing is about not letting Trump get a campaign promise? Got it.


Yes. It's also about who, between him and Pelosi, swings the biggest one. I'll leave it to you about which one it is.
Posted by catholictigerfan
Member since Oct 2009
56103 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:02 pm to
CNN saying 3 weeks not 30 days.
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
Member since Jul 2008
69650 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:02 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/11/23 at 4:01 am
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
6975 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:05 pm to
And you do?
Posted by skinny domino
sebr
Member since Feb 2007
14348 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:05 pm to
She is officially the orange jesus's mommie!!
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13511 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:06 pm to
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You come at the Queen you best not miss


Yeah, she's a real piece of work.

This is the only evidence in this conversation of a politician "putting politics above American families". But these are the forgotten ones. She could not care any less. Evil, pure and simple.


LINK
This post was edited on 1/25/19 at 1:07 pm
Posted by JudgeHolden
Gila River
Member since Jan 2008
18566 posts
Posted on 1/25/19 at 1:07 pm to
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She could not care any less. Evil, pure and simple.


Maybe. But if this pans out, she won this poker hand.
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