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re: LSU Football Supports Social Justice Reform, BLM
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:37 pm to Madking
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:37 pm to Madking
Has it ever occurred to you that killings by our police, professional public servants, and killings by common criminals are different? And that leadership has more control over the former than the latter?
Not that I expect you to directly answer this question, so I pose it rhetorically if nothing else...
Not that I expect you to directly answer this question, so I pose it rhetorically if nothing else...
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Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:37 pm to S
Oh, yea. It’s an easy defense mechanism to cover their true feelings.
Instead of saying what they really want to say, they’ll do it under the guise of ‘politics’.
Instead of saying what they really want to say, they’ll do it under the guise of ‘politics’.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:52 pm to The Son of a QUEEN
If the LSU admin. is trying to figure out how to let in a certain percentage of fans this season due to COVID concerns this issue will solve it. Well, the issue is solved if you internet tough guys are really done with LSU.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:52 pm to nitwit
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Has it ever occurred to you that killings by our police, professional public servants, and killings by common criminals are different?
I would agree that killing by LEO are worse for society. That's why I'm so thankful that the USA only had NINE shootings by LEO (there are 44 million black Americans) of unarmed blacks in 2019. That was the lowest in years. OF those maybe three at most were "bad" shootings depending on your interpretation of events. I hope that very soon we are able to get the numbers of unarmed WHITE men down to that same range.
A few unemotional facts to add to our understanding of this issue from The Washington Post:
In 2019 police officers fatally shot 1,004 people, most of whom were armed or otherwise dangerous. African-Americans were about a quarter of those killed by cops last year (235), a ratio that has remained stable since 2015
There are around 330 American citizens. Last year, The Washington Post logged a total of 1,004 killings. Of the 802 shootings in which the race of the police officer and the suspect was noted, 371 of the those killed were white; 236 were black. The vast majority of those killed were not in fact, unarmed. The vast majority were armed, and African-American suspects were significantly more likely to have a deadly weapon than white suspects. Yet more white suspects were killed.
In 2018, the latest year for which such data have been published, African-Americans made up 53% of known homicide offenders in the U.S. and commit about 60% of robberies, though they are 13% of the population.
By contrast, a police officer is 18½ times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer.
I hope these statistics help our understanding of this issue.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:56 pm to S
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turning into a political thing
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:58 pm to Lsupimp
The average for deaths in cop custody over the last decade is1,000 plus. The outlier 2019 numbers, if compete, seem to be all you guys are Willing to consider. I wonder why?
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:59 pm to nitwit
No need to get ugly I agree with you that they’re not the same. My point is on volume alone it’s an infinitely bigger issue. I’m not downplaying the evil in some of these events but it’s an inherent vice with a population of 330 million. You know cops aren’t paid very well and in turn the profession doesn’t attract the best candidates so that low number, while still bad, is to be expected. It’s not crisis level, not even close and the movement around it isn’t just political it’s missing the mark entirely. This narrative that working class whites want black people held down doesn’t make sense either. The more impoverished their community is the more social programs the rest of the working class bears the brunt of. Why would people want to pay more when uplifting our sister community helps everyone?
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 8:03 pm
Posted on 6/12/20 at 7:59 pm to Lester Earl
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When you make equality political, you become a piece of shite
Useless platitude followed by insult.
You’re like so compelling
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:02 pm to nitwit
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I wonder why?
Because we want the latest, most relevant data? But by all means, since you immediately discounted the data, share what you have.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:05 pm to nol4
Man, this is just getting fricking ridiculous.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:11 pm to TigerBait55
Ok, did you happen to see the stat at the bottom of the page you posted, where it said 99 percent of police officers weren't charged with a crime after the killings? That means they were within their rights to use lethal force in almost all of those cases. Even the ones charged doesn't mean they got convicted. Look, what the cop did to Lynch was wrong and he will be locked up for it for a long time. Stop trying to make this out to be a racial thing when it's not. Also, how many of those police involved shootings of black and white men were by black officers? And why don't we ever see the outrage for white men shot by black police officers and make that a racial subject? It's bullshite man, grow up.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:14 pm to Lsupimp
The same data source has records for more than a decade. You chose the numbers, likely incomplete ( and certainly an outlier) that suits your argument.
So cops don’t kill enough blacks for it to be a problem?
There’s no history of disproportionate police violence toward minorities?
Do any credible sources agree with you?
So cops don’t kill enough blacks for it to be a problem?
There’s no history of disproportionate police violence toward minorities?
Do any credible sources agree with you?
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:17 pm to nitwit
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There’s no history of disproportionate police violence toward minorities?
No, there is history, there’s just no present.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:18 pm to nitwit
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Do any credible sources agree with you?
All of them.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:19 pm to nitwit
I would love to see how you would react in those situations where they were shot by officers. You are the type of dumbfrick that would get his arse killed for not protecting and valuing your own life the way you should. The bottom line is that besides a very few select cases, these cops had the right to do what they did and weren't out to just shoot and kill black men. That's the point. It's a problem with people not complying with officers and being aggressive which leads to their shootings. Let me guess. You thought that the Alton Sterling shooting wasn't justified right? Even after all of the video and evidence that's known about what happened. Frickin moron.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:21 pm to nitwit
For those of you who could care less about the lives of our black athletes and their families, and only care about their performance on Saturday nights, this would be a fine time for you to sell your tickets and parking passes.
The program is behind BLM and so are many fans who care about these athletes as individuals .
The program is behind BLM and so are many fans who care about these athletes as individuals .
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:22 pm to nitwit
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The same data source has records for more than a decade. You chose the numbers, likely incomplete ( and certainly an outlier) that suits your argument.
No I chose the latest data. And told you to bring us more data to make your point so we could have an honest discussion, but you refused.
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So cops don’t kill enough blacks for it to be a problem?
There’s no history of disproportionate police violence toward minorities?
There will NEVER be a year where a cop doesn't kill unarmed blacks. It's a statistical near-certainty based on the fact that there are 330 million Americans. Nine last year seems pretty damn low considering how high it has been at some years in the past. Especially when you read about the individual nine cases.
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Do any credible sources agree with you?
It's straight from The Wapo. Depends on if you think there data base is credible. I have no reason not to.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:24 pm to nitwit
According to the FBI, there were more than 350,000 police interactions with the public and over 10 million arrests last year. Out of those 10 million arrests, police were involved in fatal shootings 1,004 times. 41 of those 1,004 were considered unarmed. Note that unarmed simply means it wasn’t on their body. It could be in the car/on the seat/etc, just not on their body. Of those 41 that were considered unarmed 19 were white, 9 were black. There were 89 cops shot and killed last year in the line of duty. There’s truth in numbers.
And the truth is....there is no systemic racism in the police departments.
And the truth is....there is no systemic racism in the police departments.
Posted on 6/12/20 at 8:24 pm to nitwit
Why do you keep doing this? People are trying to talk to you and give you info and your reply over and over is “you’re a racist, you don’t care about black people.” I’m not seeing anybody reflecting those sentiments yet you keep accusing people of it.
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