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re: Lower and Middle Class America has declined over the past 50 years
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:01 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Same with the white people in the Rust belt who refused to adapt with a changing society who find themselves in similar positions with similar pathologies.
That's this board, only they're in the south.
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Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
Suboptimal?
How long do you envision these tariffs crushing bus drivers?
How long do you envision these tariffs crushing bus drivers?
This post was edited on 4/3/25 at 3:03 pm
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:04 pm to Bunk Moreland
Funny enough a lot of those manufacturing jobs didn't go overseas and they went....to the South 
Why? Unions
Why? Unions
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:04 pm to Jbird
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How long do you envision these tariffs crushing bus drivers?
I have no idea what timeframe Trump has on this. He clearly has no problem injecting random chaos into markets without communication.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:06 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I've said multiple times on here the one political issue that makes me emotional is how schools protect bad kids with no future, because that cradling robs so many good-decent kids thwarting the culture by forcing the bad kids to ruin schools. This policy has robbed so many futures of so many poor, black children that it legit makes me mad. I grew up around that shite. It's terrible.
The same deception is enacted to members of rural communities by people soliciting their votes. Odd you choose to give those snakes a pass.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:10 pm to SlowFlowPro
Without communication!?
Bus driver please this wasn't a surprise fool.
Bus driver please this wasn't a surprise fool.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:11 pm to Jbird
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Without communication!?
Bus driver please this wasn't a surprise fool.
Uh, we were told there would be reciprocal tariffs, and that's not even what we got
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
A partial is bad?
Make up your mind tariffs are crushing us
Make up your mind tariffs are crushing us
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:13 pm to Jbird
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A partial is bad?
A partial based on things other than tariff rates.
The important miscommunication was the reciprocity of tariff rates, which is not what the policy entails.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
Meh.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
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growing up in a pathological culture raised by uneducated parents creates an increased likelihood of suboptimal results.
What created this culture?
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Same with the white people in the Rust belt who refused to adapt with a changing society who find themselves in similar positions with similar pathologies.
White people in the Rust belt were casualties of deindustrialization, which also impact Black folks on top of systemic racism.
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I've said multiple times on here the one political issue that makes me emotional is how schools protect bad kids with no future, because that cradling robs so many good-decent kids thwarting the culture by forcing the bad kids to ruin schools. This policy has robbed so many futures of so many poor, black children that it legit makes me mad. I grew up around that shite. It's terrible.
Are schools really protecting them or ensuring they will have no future? It’s all intentional.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:15 pm to Jbird
The exponential increase has caused major ripples domestically and internationally because that was not what was promoted prior to yesterday.
Again, chaos.
Again, chaos.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:17 pm to SlowFlowPro
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The exponential increase has caused major ripples domestically and internationally because that was not what was promoted prior to yesterday. Again, chaos.
You and those affected should have foreseen this as possibility and made better decisions. You only have yourself to blame on this one chief.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
So again 30 some percent versus 60 some percent.
Chaos!!!!!
Chaos!!!!!
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:20 pm to 4cubbies
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What created this culture?
Bad choices snowballing into a pathological culture over a few generations.
This divergence didn't happen until after Jim Crow, during the 60s onward with the expanded welfare state.
Just look up the rate of teen pregnancies and 2-parent households.
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White people in the Rust belt were casualties of deindustrialization, which also impact Black folks on top of systemic racism.
No no the MAGA types use "globalism" as the vague, institutional boogeyman (the corollary for systemic racism for Leftists)
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Are schools really protecting them or ensuring they will have no future? It’s all intentional.
Schools are mandated to protect bad kids via insane/illogical educational policies, and these bad kids are allowed to linger and ensure few, if any, children around them get an education.
Protecting the bad kids and ensuring no future for the good kids is enraging.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 3:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
I’m enjoying this discourse but I have to go. I’ll respond when I can. Check back at some point if you don’t mind so we can continue.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:As I said, I'm keenly aware. Many of the folks I've seen from that side of the tracks were bullet-ridden in dire shape. Very sad stuff. It is a lifestyle generated out of hopelessness. What kind of quality job can someone who barely graduated highschool get in a country with few blue collar domestic manufacturing opportunities?
Go to any shitty ghetto or trailer park and observe.
Now that is not the whole story, but it's a substantial part. No one aspires to be twenty-something GSW murder statistic. It's not a prescored mindset.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:07 pm to NC_Tigah
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What kind of quality job can someone who barely graduated highschool get in a country with few blue collar domestic manufacturing opportunities?
a. There are plenty of blue collar opportunities, manufacturing or otherwise
b. That culture of dismissing education has pathological consequences
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No one aspires to be twenty-something GSW murder statistic. It's not a prescored mindset.
Hence, culture. I'm not saying it's genetic or epigenetic or anything. This is culture developed over multiple generations.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:09 pm to NC_Tigah
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What kind of quality job can someone who barely graduated highschool get in a country with few blue collar domestic manufacturing opportunities?
Construction. Pays better, has paid apprenticeships and massive shortages because people are fricking lazy.
Posted on 4/3/25 at 4:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Perhaps there's not the pride in workmanship there should be. But I'd hesitate to call folks doing blue collar work in their 40's, 50's, and 60's "lazy."
because people are fricking lazy.
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