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re: Louisiana Secretary or State, Y/N on new EBR taxes results thread

Posted on 12/9/18 at 9:22 am to
Posted by OysterPoBoy
City of St. George
Member since Jul 2013
43174 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 9:22 am to
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Basically EBR just passed a tax for road improvements due to high traffic caused by the flight to LP. Damn!!! A win win for LP. Leave EBR for better quality of life, and make EBR residents pay to improve their commute to work.


We need to build a loop and make Livingston pay for it.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41869 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 9:24 am to
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Man this. My house is assessed much higher than my neighbors who have a bigger house on a bigger l

Our assessor picks winners and losers.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69366 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:08 am to
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Basically EBR just passed a tax for road improvements due to high traffic caused by the flight to LP. Damn!!! A win win for LP. Leave EBR for better quality of life, and make EBR residents pay to improve their commute to work.


I've been saying that all week. It's asinine.


This really isn’t true. If the tax was going to fund interstate ilrovements, you might be right, buf most of these improvements won’t help LP/AP commuters at all.

Most of these improvements are for over-burdened streets in the white flight suburbs inside the parish. These are mostly areas that were swamp and pastures 30 years ago that now have 100000 people living there. Most of the road improvements are in St. George, and designed to handle increased local traffic (Pecue interchange, widening perkins, widening Old Hammond Hwy, widening LA 30, extending starring, etc).
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
14778 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:33 am to
LOL. Subdivisions are going up all over the SE part of EBRP. 2 homes on my street in EBRP sold within 3 weeks of going on the market for list price. The two retired families that left moved into 70809 into condos. The new families have kids and did not want to get into the traffic disaster that is AP and LP. The traffic in LP and AP is worse than in EBRP on most arteries. And, with EBRP getting ready to do something about our bottlenecks, LP and AP will get worse.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133683 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:42 am to
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Most of these improvements are for over-burdened streets in the white flight suburbs inside the parish.

I find it ironic that many of the St George supporters, like you, complain about the lack of spending by the EBR government for infrastructure improvements in the "non-downtown" area and St George area but when the government proposes improvements outside of downtown the complaint becomes "see, it just proves the white flight to the suburbs." SMH....
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31746 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:45 am to
I've noticed this as well. Based on this map, it looks like a fairly balanced project, and I say that as someone who voted against the measure: LINK
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 10:48 am
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
58007 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:52 am to
This is the only new tax I've ever voted for. Had Green Light not actually worked, I would have shot this down (and still almost did since SWB was involved). I'm still skeptical but the traffic is so bad (with signs only of getting worse) that I would rather try this and fail than do nothing but complain.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69366 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:09 am to
The St. George movement is almost exclusively about the lack of schools in the southern part of the parish. None of the st. George proposals call for roads to be handled by the new city. DPW, just like the library system, BREC, br water, etc would continue to be handled by the parish governments, and there would be no St. George PD as they would continue to rely on the EBRPSO.

The people living out there would like roads AND schools. The horror
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 11:11 am
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31746 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:23 am to
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The people living out there would like roads AND schools. The horror




What's going to be the height of ironic is if St. George incorporates but fails to get its own school district. The bar is quite a bit higher:

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If the incorporation is successful, supporters will turn their attention to the Legislature to try to win passage of a new St. George school district. In that fight, municipal boundaries and annexations won’t be legal obstacles for St. George backers. The key obstacles are winning a two-thirds vote of both the House and the Senate, and then a majority vote of voters statewide and in East Baton Rouge Parish before the St. George school system can open its doors.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133683 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:27 am to
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The people living out there would like roads AND schools. The horror
I didn't say it's a "horror."

I just pointed out the hypocrisy of claiming infrastructure in the suburbs is ignored by the EBR government while at the same time criticizing a substantial effort to improve the infrastructure there.

FWIW, I voted NO on both tax proposals yesterday.
Posted by LSUROCKS52
Rest in Peace
Member since Oct 2003
56 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:28 am to
Now that the mayor/president has completely avoided having any fiscal responsibility for roads. What will she use all the other tax money for? You know, the funds that were supposed to address traffic from year’s past?

This tax is a reward for terrible leadership. Basically, the city/parish are getting a bolus injection of funds north of $30M/ year. That’s fresh tax money every year on top of the already overtaxed funds that should have already been used for roads in years gone by. Baton Rouge city council are about go hog wild with all the money freed up that should have been used and just in time for Christmas. Congrats to future government pensions and raises. Most of all thank you to the Political Action Committee (PAC) composed of construction, engineering and architecture firms who raised almost $400K out of the goodness of their hearts. I’m sure all non-PAC parties will have a fair shot at the money trough to compete for the business.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
69366 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 1:37 pm to
I don’t live in the city at the moment, but I am glad the road tax was passed. Driving in that city is a nightmare, and seeing how most of what I buy is purchased in EBR, I’ll be paying for it too. Honestly, if the only project that gets done is 4-laning Nicholson down to Gardere, it will have been worth it to me.
This post was edited on 12/9/18 at 1:43 pm
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