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re: Looks like it’s about to get real in Ukraine

Posted on 4/2/21 at 8:50 am to
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 4/2/21 at 8:50 am to
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Ukraine wants Crimea back. The article suggests US backing for the aggressive actions by the Ukraine leadership. The comments are stating there is an escalation going on as we speak, with US forces already there.
If that area turns hot, don't be surprised if China makes a move on Taiwan. Biden is exceptionally weak, and the world knows it.
Posted by Mike da Tigah
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Posted on 4/2/21 at 8:57 am to
I mean, if you were Russia, and you looked over and saw a mentally incompetent Biden in charge of America, would you waste the opportunity?
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:01 am to
What's happened is Ukraine cut off the water supply to Crimea which was deliberately provocative since 80% of the Crimean population is Ethnic Russian. The reason Putin annexed it in the first place is because Ukraine was threatening them with genocide. Naturally the US and frankly Western media never told you that. But that's what happened.
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:03 am to

And here we go!
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:09 am to
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An ancient Terran proverb once said that all wars, no matter how bloody or great, begin with but a single shot fired.


Another good Terran quote:
quote:

I won't be talked down to by anybody. Not even a Protoss. - Jim Raynor
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:16 am to
So what's the basic gist of what is going on there with Crimea? Possible to find a basic version of each side?

Been going on a bit, and I know obama let the Russians go in and take it. But he let many of his pinko buddies do a lot of things they shouldn't have during his tenure.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
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Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:18 am to



Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:24 am to
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So what's the basic gist of what is going on there with Crimea? Possible to find a basic version of each side?

You're asking the wrong guy. I'm not paying that much attention to it, just watching from the cheap seats.

My concern is where Biden is going to drag us into war and he seems to be itching to do it all over.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
7654 posts
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:37 am to
Remember General Wesley Clark's "Seven Countries in 5 years thing? I believe this is a part of that being put back in play.

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This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 9:40 am
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22155 posts
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:38 am to
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We just signed a big arse arms deal there


So we are giving them money to buy obsolete weapons from us...

Aint no way the Uke's can compete with the Russians.

This will wind up with Europe getting their gas cut off again until they bend the knee deeply. Russia supplies 90% of their nat gas especially in Eastern Europe.
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9905 posts
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:40 am to
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You know what the Ukraine is? It's a sitting duck. A road apple, Newman. The Ukraine is weak.


Kramer and Newman playing Risk on the train
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:42 am to
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Remember General Wesley Clark's "Seven Countries in 5 years thing? I believe this is a part of that being put back in play.

I have never heard of it. It sounds feasible. I've always been of the mind that ISIS was a CIA op. And back during the Obama years they were bragging about the CIA putting out a Twitter-like program to assist in fomenting insurrection.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5673 posts
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:43 am to
this is all Obama's fault
Posted by Cossatotjoe
Member since Oct 2020
938 posts
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:44 am to
If these fricking idiots get us into a war over the Ukraine, there should be a mass rebellion. Getting into a fricking hot war on the doorstep of a country that still has nuclear weapons targeted at us is insane.

Backing the Ukraine against Russia over the Crimea is about the same as if Russia backed Mexico in an attempt to retake Texas. It has absolutely no chance of success, and will only I start a war.
This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 9:46 am
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175636 posts
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:45 am to
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since 80% of the Crimean population is Ethnic Russian. The reason Putin annexed it in the first place is because Ukraine was threatening them with genocide. Naturally the US and frankly Western media never told you that. But that's what happened.

Hitler is that you?
This post was edited on 4/2/21 at 9:46 am
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:46 am to
quote:

You're asking the wrong guy. I'm not paying that much attention to it, just watching from the cheap seats.

My concern is where Biden is going to drag us into war and he seems to be itching to do it all over.



Yeah we are in the same boat.

Wonder if anyone else can give the 5yo versions from both sides.
Posted by Rex Feral
Member since Jan 2014
15899 posts
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:47 am to


Ukraine is game to you?! How bout I take your little board and smash it!!
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19608 posts
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:47 am to
Crimea belonged to Russia for a few centuries until a drunk Krushev (a Ukranian by origin) gave it away to Ukraine, a move that was unconstitutional even by Soviet Union standards. Post-USSR Russia let it slide until Ukraine insisted on joining NATO. The region is vitally important to Russia b/c it provides access to warm water. Ukraine was neglecting the place.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
33176 posts
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:47 am to
Just wait til we sent tranny team 6 over there that’s when it’s really gonna pop off
Posted by AURaptor
South
Member since Aug 2018
11958 posts
Posted on 4/2/21 at 9:49 am to
I’m not saying that I was pro war, but I bought into the Afghan, Iraqi military actions as being legitimate. My understanding was that we would go in, get the bad guys, then get out. Now 20 years later , we’re still there… I finally saw what those who came a generation before me saw with Vietnam.

It’s about the money, not the morality.

I still ( naively? ) hold to the idea that we can go in and do good with our military, but when it’s our own family that is paying the price ,that urge to push the button or put boots on the ground becomes far more selective & reserved.
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