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re: Looks like Iran was behind pilot plot to hijack flyabudabai plane today

Posted on 10/2/26 at 9:19 am to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 9:19 am to
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Ever single thread for ever is anti Drumpf


Of course, that's a lie. I started a thread recently saying how the economic strangulation strategy looked good (I think that was on isolating Iranian Airlines).


Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 9:21 am to
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Clearly this wasn’t just the pilot. He had help on the plane.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 9:41 am to
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And there it is. It's about the popped off
Now suddenly you want to wait for facts


With RAF Fairford, we don't need any more facts. The Brits already showed it wasn't actually terrorism by releasing the suspects so quickly. The Americans, despite Trump’s promise of transparency, won't ever release any details countering that.

With the UAE, this will be an easy investigation. Both pilots are alive. All data has been retrieved.

What are you saying about Dubai? They're secretive? They're sycophants for the US and Israel?

Everything isn't a fight. I have said frequently that I appreciate your service and superior knowledge about many matters. What do you think will happen with the UAE led investigation?
This post was edited on 10/2/26 at 5:21 pm
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 10:22 am to
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Clearly this wasn’t just the pilot. He had help on the plane.


What help did anyone give him?
Posted by VOR
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 10:54 am to
Some posters here should take note that the hero was Indian…
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 11:04 am to
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my Gawd. terrifying. the trust we have to put in pilots is taken for granted far too much.


There was a German pilot who flew his commercial airliner into a mountain not too long ago. Basically just suicide and sociopathy. No real political motive ever discovered.

That was my first wake up call
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 11:34 am to
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Some posters here should take note that the hero was Indian


Agreed 100%. The Indian pilot is a Hero in every sense of the word. I can’t believe the flight attendants told the crowd to unhandcuff the co-pilot and let him go. This was not an isolated person.
Posted by MrLSU
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 11:36 am to
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What help did anyone give him?


A couple of flight attendants were trying to get the passengers to unhandcuff the co-pilot and were also yelling at passengers to let him go.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 11:38 am to
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I can’t believe the flight attendants told the crowd to unhandcuff the co-pilot and let him go.


I can't believe that either. Surely there must be video of it. Have you seen any?

Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 11:44 am to

flyabudabai ...

Posted by goatmilker
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 11:46 am to
How many troops on the ground Preacher?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 11:49 am to
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couple of flight attendants were trying to get the passengers to unhandcuff the co-pilot and were also yelling at passengers to let him go.


Thanks. I saw your report of that. It would be helpful to see a video of it. Even if it happened, doesn't sound like a coordinated effort.

I guess it could be.....

Anyhow, thanks again for posting it. I will dig to see if there are any videos of the flight attendants saying that.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 11:56 am to
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couple of flight attendants were trying to get the passengers to unhandcuff the co-pilot and were also yelling at passengers to let him go.


Still can't find any video of the flight attendants other than them helping the hero Hindu pilot.

FWIW, here's what ChatGPT said.....

Yes. I found a report that matches the allegation quite closely, although at this point I would treat it as a passenger's account, not an independently established fact.

A report published today by OneIsrael.org says that one of the Israeli passengers who helped overpower the attacker told reporters that, after the attacker had been subdued and the aircraft was back under control, the flight attendants asked the Israelis to remove the restraints from him because “he no longer posed a danger.” The Israelis reportedly refused. ?
Israel Street

That is essentially the claim you heard.
What's important about the sourcing
I haven't yet found the original interview with the Israeli passenger in a major news outlet that independently confirms the flight attendants made that request. The Times and Independent accounts I've found describe the passengers restraining the attacker, but don't report this particular exchange. ?
The Times +1

There is also an important distinction between handcuffs and improvised restraints. Passenger accounts say the Israelis initially restrained the attacker using things such as zip ties and headphone cords, rather than conventional police handcuffs. ? So the word "handcuffs" in the report may be being used loosely or may refer to restraints applied later.

I think this is worth digging into further, because if we can locate the Israeli passenger's original TV/radio interview, we could determine:
exactly which passenger made the allegation,
exactly what the flight attendants said,
whether they actually attempted to remove the restraints themselves, and
whether the attendants' request was captured on any video.

If you want, I can ??specifically search Israeli TV/news sources (Kan, Channel 12, Channel 13, Ynet, Times of Israel, Jerusalem Post) for the original interview.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 11:58 am to
Just video evidence will convince you?

Not testimony just video?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 12:08 pm to
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Just video evidence will convince you?
Not testimony just video?


There's already been so much false information on this story. Initially, I saw a report about the two pilots who stepped in to fly the plane were Israeli. Turns out the only thing that can be verified is that one of the dead heading pilots was "James' from the UK.

As to the flight attendants, the story being floated in the OP is to suggest that this was some Muzzie plot that the flight attendants were in on. So far, all I can find is a Kenyan story about two Kenyan flight attendants helping the wounded captain.
This post was edited on 10/2/26 at 12:09 pm
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 4:38 pm to
Weird

Want instant facts in one topic

Wait for data in others
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 5:06 pm to
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Want instant facts in one topic
Wait for data in others


What's so hard?

With RAF Fairford, we were told that US had been investigating before the incident. The fact that we didn't release the info after Trump promised he would, means there's no information that supports US claims. The window for learning what happened has closed.

The FlyDubai information is already progressing because the facts are easily determined. We'll know what happened within a few days.

ETA: ABC reporting that the FlyDubai attacker had been suspended for possessing "extremist materials." I started a thread about it.
This post was edited on 10/2/26 at 5:15 pm
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 5:48 pm to
The window closed?

They just arrested a sixth guy

Wtf
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 6:07 pm to
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The window closed?


What additional details have you learned about Fairford? We'll see. I missed a prediction on this board once before.

It's like an Ann Coulter Rule for government: if they have material that makes them look good, that material is shared within 24 hours; if the material doesn't make them look good, it's buried for as long as possible.

In the RAF Fairford case, no one will be charged, so no materials will have to be released. The warmongers will have accomplished their mission. To hype the Iranian threat in the eyes of a gullible public.

The Brits have already retracted their lie about questioning a "second man" along with the 27...err....25 y.o.

UK: Counter-terrorism Policing Website

quote:

*Note 2015hrs: The age originally published at 1730hrs was 27-years-old – this is not correct and he is 25-years-old. We also published information that a second man had been questioned under caution which is not correct and has been removed. Apologies for any inconvenience.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 6:22 pm to
No one will be charged?

Man your confidence is amazing.
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