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re: Looks like Iran was behind pilot plot to hijack flyabudabai plane today

Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:00 am to
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:00 am to
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you were whining incessantly because facts weren't released instantly.



As to the RAF Fairford incident, the known facts strongly suggested that Trump was lying about the 5 arrested men having been under investigation and caught trying to blow up the base. The fact that nothing was released to verify what Trump was saying fit the pattern of attacking the Minab School: "I have seen stuff that shows Iran did it. We'll show you. [Never shows.]"

Just as with Minab, there won't be an investigation that is released to the public, because it would expose Trump's lies. The British are our poodles when it comes to intelligence matters.

With the airliner incident, the known facts do indicate that the first officer was trying to crash the plane. Why? We don't know. You know that pilot suicide for nonpolitical reasons has happened before.

Maybe the first officer was trying to crash the aircraft in Jordan to kill himself and the Israelis onboard. Is there any evidence of that? Has anybody reported what the FO actually said?

Surely the cockpit voice recorder has already been reviewed. What does it show about motive?

Unlike RAF Fairford, there will be an investigation released in this case. Unlike the mystery Fairford 5, the identity of the FO will be determined pretty quickly by internet sleuths...much smaller subset (Omani pilot, flight certifications). Other than to smear Iran, the UAE doesn't have much incentive to lie. The investigation will be worth waiting for.


Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:02 am to
How about the 6th arrested person?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:03 am to
The Israelis and the US are involved in the UAE investigation you know that right?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:07 am to
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How about the 6th arrested person?


Get back to me when they are actually CHARGED and identified. Spolier alert: they won't be charged, because the public could actually investigate what happened if the identity of the person is revealed.

What's your understanding as to how the 6th person is related to the RAF Fairford incident? What WAS the RAF Fairford incident?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:08 am to
Look at corky go!
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:13 am to
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The Israelis and the US are involved in the UAE investigation you know that right?


You do realize that UAE is leading the investigation and has custody of the attacker...right?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:15 am to
What exactly is your point?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:28 am to
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What exactly is your point?


The Americans and Israelis might spin what happened, but UAE has jurisdiction over this.

Are you satisfied with the Minab School investigation so far? What do you think the hold up is? You think we don't have the target data from all our Tomahawks on that day?

The 1988 USS Vincennes report was released in less than a month. Was it easier to gather information back then?

The constant spinning about "intelligence" from "our" government is revolting.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:31 am to
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Look at corky go!


You know stuff. It would be great if you applied it more often. What's the point of constantly, mindlessly belittling me?

Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:35 am to
Your facade of independence is well a facade.
Posted by Trevaylin
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:36 am to
Mafish Mukh
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:36 am to
So you think they will not work together but in fact stick it to the US and Israel is that your spin?
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:41 am to
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Your facade of independence is well a facade.


To what am I enslaved?
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:42 am to
Ever single thread for ever is anti Drumpf
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:47 am to
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So you think they will not work together but in fact stick it to the US and Israel is that your spin?


I don't have any spin. The political leaders of the US and Israel have already declared that they know what the motive of the FO was. Trump has already hilariously said that he has seen things showing Iranian involvement.

Compare that to the responsible statements of the UAE Attorney General who will lead the investigation.

The National: UAE Probe



quote:

The UAE team has begun work in co-ordination with the General Civil Aviation Authority and other UAE authorities, Wam said.

The attorney general urged the public to refrain from circulating unverified information. Early reports of the mid-air drama, including the nationalities of the pilots and other details, were strewn with inaccuracies.

Under UAE law, crimes committed aboard aircraft registered in the country fall within the jurisdiction of UAE courts, regardless of where the incident occurs, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs reiterated on Thursday.

"The UAE also expressed its appreciation to the Saudi authorities for their cooperation and handling of the incident", it added.

Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:48 am to
One more time so u think the YAE won't work with them but expose them?

Make the call
Posted by rattlebucket
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 8:55 am to
Even if we eventually get out of the ME and just carpet bomb all their infrastructure on the way out this will be a perpetual problem. There is only one true solution but it would create more enemies from other foreign nations. Its a religious ideology and culture. You cant win that war in modern conventional ways. These people are like the bugs in Stormtroopers. They’ll never relent
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
13284 posts
Posted on 10/2/26 at 9:02 am to
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One more time so u think the YAE won't work with them but expose them?
Make the call


I'm saying no UAE leaders have popped off prematurely to state a motive. There's no predetermined finding. I trust that stance.

Maybe it was an act of terror committed by an Islamist working with the Iranians. Maybe the FO was a psycho who wanted to just kill himself and everyone aboard.

Posted by Cromulent
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 9:06 am to
You're just a concerned citizen? No one is buying your slanted bullshite.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 10/2/26 at 9:07 am to
And there it is. It's about the popped off

Now suddenly you want to wait for facts

Before you were demanding instant facts.

Know how I know you have never dealt with Dubai or Abu Dhabi?

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