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re: Looking at young Rittenhouse from another Angle

Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:16 pm to
Posted by subotic
Member since Dec 2012
2820 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:16 pm to
quote:

This is not my area of expertise,


"I have zero basis for the following statements..."

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
157445 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:18 pm to
What law did he break?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:20 pm to
Seems pretty easy to prove, even “legally speaking”.
Posted by More&Les
Member since Nov 2012
14684 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:22 pm to
quote:


Where do you see this "right?"


The right to "life"

You just gotta look it up....
(Pass me the ramen please)
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:23 pm to
quote:

Pretty sure the law states he can carry as a 17 year old as long as he’s under adult supervision
Not exactly. That only applies during target shooting or weapons training:
quote:

This section does not apply to a person under 18 years of age who possesses or is armed with a dangerous weapon when the dangerous weapon is being used in target practice under the supervision of an adult or in a course of instruction in the traditional and proper use of the dangerous weapon under the supervision of an adult.
Unless popping protesters counts as target practice, I don't think this provision helps him much, even if the folks WERE there.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
95489 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:25 pm to
quote:

Reading it the latter way, I now understand your point.


My broader point is that there are many, many lawful, benign uses of a rifle including lawful self-defense. Obviously folks can do what they want on their own property, but having a Molotov cocktail out in public - you're a revolutionary, a terrorist, an arsonist or all three.

Period.
This post was edited on 8/26/20 at 5:26 pm
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
73007 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:28 pm to
Gotcha.

But then why isn’t he being charged for that?
Posted by OnwardToMAyhem
Member since Feb 2019
320 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:32 pm to
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"I have zero basis for the following statements..."


Incorrect, except unlike most everyone else who posts here 200 times a day on every topic under the conservative sun and claims utter infallibilty, even though I know an awful lot about this,I am fair in judging my knowledge.

I promise I know more than most posting here on this. I'd bet a large sum of money I know more than you.

Like it or not, he was breaking the law when this occurred, opinion is not a factor here, facts are.

I have little invested in this, I think all sides were idiots.

Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:32 pm to
"'The rifle was being jerked around in all directions while it was being fired,' Rosas said."

Rosas was a witness in the UK Daily Mail article. It details circumstances surrounding at least one shooting - Skateboard guy..
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:34 pm to
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But then why isn’t he being charged for that?
Unknown.

In many jurisdictions, misdemeanors and felonies are handled in different courts and by different prosecutors. My guess is that this is the reason.
Posted by subotic
Member since Dec 2012
2820 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:36 pm to
quote:

Incorrect, except unlike most everyone else who posts here 200 times a day on every topic under the conservative sun and claims utter infallibilty, even though I know an awful lot about this,I am fair in judging my knowledge.

I promise I know more than most posting here on this. I'd bet a large sum of money I know more than you.



But you are the one claiming that a minor misdemeanor gun charge will "effect" his self-defense claims. On what basis do you make that claim?
Posted by Crow Pie
Neuro ICU - Tulane Med Center
Member since Feb 2010
27726 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:36 pm to
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then claims intellectual superiority when laughed at.
Only claims the superiority after he checks Wikipedia.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138474 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:40 pm to
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Thanks. I've not seen that particular video. We can see Rittenhouse running across the front part of the car lot, but I cannot see WHERE he came FROM ... the left part of the lot OR off premises.

Again, I have seen representations that he had some direct relationship with this location. Maybe not. Still a lot of facts to be developed.

Right.
He had no relationship to any Kenosha enterprise. Zero.

He is a 17-y/o kid with law-enforcement career aspirations from a town 30 miles away who lives in a small Apt with his mom.

There is no way in Hell that he had some direct (or indirect) relationship with this location.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138474 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:42 pm to
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Unless popping protesters counts as target practice
Dude!

Come on!

Are you trying to Nick Sandmann this KID too?

Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:43 pm to
quote:

NC_Tigah
There is no way in Hell that he had some direct (or indirect) relationship with this location
I saw a video earlier today in which he was standing in front of a boarded-up building and saying that he was present to defend that specific building. It is the same video in which he showed his medkit. Another poster earlier today said it was the same building.
This post was edited on 8/26/20 at 5:47 pm
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:45 pm to
quote:

quote:

Unless popping protesters counts as target practice
Dude! Come on! Are you trying to Nick Sandmann this KID too?
Lighten up. It was a joke ... and I thought a rather obvious one.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
82156 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:45 pm to
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protesters




Posted by RoaringTiger33
Member since Jun 2011
567 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:46 pm to
This is false - you can protect others as well. Try again, dumbass.
Posted by uppermidwestbama
Member since Nov 2014
2097 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:46 pm to
He's from IL. Nice that there are two less low life scum on the planet, but the kid travelled across state lines. He will serve time.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
44345 posts
Posted on 8/26/20 at 5:49 pm to
quote:

This is false - you can protect others as well. Try again, dumbass.
I started a thread about a question related directly to the protection of property ... your own versus that of others.

And you throw a fit because it did not also address the unrelated (and inapposite) question of "protection of others?"

OK, Billy Baddass.
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