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re: Local Hardware Store: Fertilizer
Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:46 pm to Aubie Spr96
Posted on 5/9/26 at 6:46 pm to Aubie Spr96
frick and me thinking you were gonna tell us how to make a bomb...
Posted on 5/9/26 at 7:40 pm to Aubie Spr96
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Owner said everything skyrocketed with the Iran War. Said it will most likely continue to climb.
Yep, it is a strategy Iran has used for a long time to convince America to give them what they want. The difference this time is quite clear.
Iran just got decimated and will not be able to hold up the Strait of Hormuz ever again when the USA, under POTUS Trump and the US military are done with the IRGC.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 9:42 am to Aubie Spr96
Transportation costs are way up. I had a HMMWV delivered to my house last week and it cost $3400 to ship it from NC. I had another HMMWV delivered from CA back in November for $1400. The CA distance was longer.
This post was edited on 5/10/26 at 9:59 am
Posted on 5/10/26 at 10:43 am to Aubie Spr96
So people are complaining about the war with Iran causing it?????
Do these same people, the ones who support viva Ukraine, realize THAT is the war causing fertilizer costs to rise?

Do these same people, the ones who support viva Ukraine, realize THAT is the war causing fertilizer costs to rise?
Posted on 5/10/26 at 10:45 am to NashvilleTider
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A small price to pay for not getting nuked to death.
Been hearing that line for 3 decades.
You sort used to sneer at it when it was Biden saying it.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 10:48 am to LakeCharles
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Transportation costs are way up. I had a HMMWV delivered to my house last week and it cost $3400 to ship it from NC. I had another HMMWV delivered from CA back in November for $1400. The CA distance was longer.
Did you use the same person? And was the scenario for the delivery and return trip the exact same?
Posted on 5/10/26 at 11:05 am to texag7
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Did you use the same person? And was the scenario for the delivery and return trip the exact same?
It it hard to believe? Price of diesel jumped from $3.50 to $4.92. That's 40% increase in less than a year.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 11:07 am to NashvilleTider
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A small price to pay for not getting nuked to death. Sack up. maybe work some overtime. Quit complaining.
So this actually works on poorly educated .This shyster has been pushing this nonsense since 1990s. Funny enough is that America was never in danger of being nuked- they were, allegedly, not us.

This post was edited on 5/10/26 at 11:08 am
Posted on 5/10/26 at 11:08 am to Aubie Spr96
I am so sick of people who shouldn’t have an opinion (your hardware store economist) having one.
2008- Nitrogen was $1200/ton
Then dropped to $400
2014-2016- $800 because we had to figure out the DEF supply chain
Back down to $400
2021- up to $1500
Back down
2026- back up to $1100/ton
Yes, geopolitical events affect fertilizer prices. Yes, it comes back down.
And it’s high, but it’s also the same price it was 20 years ago.
Bet he doesn’t know that the average yield increase in corn is in the neighborhood of 30bu/ac over the last 20 years.
Care to guess what also drives nitrogen high?
High yielding corn. Take millions of acres and then get hundreds of millions of increased yield- which took nitrogen to do it. And here we are. Plus, we make an enormous amount of DEF in the US now, so the supply chain is very sensitive.
Buy your lil bag of 13-13-13 with its 6 pounds of nitrogen in it- worth $10 on todays market and be happy they can get you some P and K in it also and somehow bag it, and distribute it, and the retailer can sell it for a profit.
2008- Nitrogen was $1200/ton
Then dropped to $400
2014-2016- $800 because we had to figure out the DEF supply chain
Back down to $400
2021- up to $1500
Back down
2026- back up to $1100/ton
Yes, geopolitical events affect fertilizer prices. Yes, it comes back down.
And it’s high, but it’s also the same price it was 20 years ago.
Bet he doesn’t know that the average yield increase in corn is in the neighborhood of 30bu/ac over the last 20 years.
Care to guess what also drives nitrogen high?
High yielding corn. Take millions of acres and then get hundreds of millions of increased yield- which took nitrogen to do it. And here we are. Plus, we make an enormous amount of DEF in the US now, so the supply chain is very sensitive.
Buy your lil bag of 13-13-13 with its 6 pounds of nitrogen in it- worth $10 on todays market and be happy they can get you some P and K in it also and somehow bag it, and distribute it, and the retailer can sell it for a profit.
Posted on 5/10/26 at 12:02 pm to texag7
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Did you use the same person? And was the scenario for the delivery and return trip the exact same?
Kind of. I used the same guy at a "shipping" company that puts out requests for bids. Trucks typically have extra room for more stuff and if they are at location X and going to location Z and your item is on the way and your delivery location is on the way they will give him a price. In the case of the CA HMMWV, the truck was in CA for a scheduled pick up of several items for a couple of customers and had another 15 feet of flatbed left and his home was 60 miles from where I live. After he loaded my HMMWV, he won another bid he put in and set a pallet of stuff in the bed of my HMMWV.
The shipment from NC was a father and son with a pickup truck and a big trailer. They were in NC with an empty trailer after making a delivery, and headed home to Lubbock. Dropping off the HMMWV in SD added maybe 500 miles to his return trip. The guy that arranged the shipping for me looked for about 3 weeks for the best price, but they kept going up. 3 weeks before I scheduled the $3400 shipping, he had a $2100 bid.
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